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To: vladimir998

Not ignoring anything.

Baptism does NOT save.

Faith in Christ Jesus saves.

Christ said to enter heaven, you MUST be born again; you MUST believe in Him.

Read the Gospel of John.
Read Romans.
You are taking out of context part of a line from one Scripture and basing dogma on that text which contradicts what Jesus Himself said is required to be saved.

That is disingenuous, at best.


1,929 posted on 12/14/2014 6:24:44 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

“Not ignoring anything.”

Yes, you are. See the next thing:

“Baptism does NOT save.”

(For what I believe is the third time) It is grace that saves. Baptism gives us grace. Now, will I have to repeat this yet again in the next post while you claim to not be ignoring anything?

“Faith in Christ Jesus saves.”

Grace saves. We get grace through faith in Christ. And, before you ask, there is only one source of grace but there is more than one way Christ gives it to us.

“Christ said to enter heaven, you MUST be born again; you MUST believe in Him.”

And He also gave us Baptism and that gives us grace.

“Read the Gospel of John.”:

Already have. Many times.

“Read Romans.”

Already have. Many times. You might want to look at Romans 6.

“You are taking out of context part of a line from one Scripture and basing dogma on that text which contradicts what Jesus Himself said is required to be saved.”

No. I took NOTHING out of context. There are many verses that speak of the importance of Baptism.

“That is disingenuous, at best.”

That assertion is disingenuous at best.


1,944 posted on 12/14/2014 6:52:00 PM PST by vladimir998
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