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To: BipolarBob
I'm not convinced of that unbroken part. There have been some trials, tribulations, persecutions, inquisitions and apostasy since the original Twelve walked the earth.

The problem is a lack of faith. You would trade Sola Scriptura for a version of history that denies the power of the LORD Jesus Christ to found and preserve his church in actual history.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

382 posted on 11/30/2014 4:41:14 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: BipolarBob

It’s a never ending battle, huh Bob? Keep up the good work.


383 posted on 11/30/2014 4:46:42 PM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my saviour, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: af_vet_1981
The problem is a lack of faith. Whose? Yours or mine?
You would trade Sola Scriptura for a version of history that denies the power of the LORD Jesus Christ to found and preserve his church in actual history. Wrong again. I don't deny the power of Jesus Christ but I affirm the depravity, greed and corruption of man.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. You can't talk to Catholics without seeing this verse a million times. So if you want to think that Peter (the one who denied his Lord three times) is the foundation for your Church. That's fine. It just explains why I get bad vibes and the hair standing up on the back of my neck in alarm whenever I enter a Catholic Church. I read that same verse differently than you do.
388 posted on 11/30/2014 5:04:26 PM PST by BipolarBob (You smell of elderberries, my friend.)
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