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To: MrB
He was tall and fully formed, sure, but under closer examination would have proven to be brand-new: No scars, callouses, evidence of internal damage, genetic decay, etc.

The universe, on the other hand, exhibits many evidences of being billions of years old. Just to begin with, we're seeing light coming from far more than 6000 light-years away, and we know from over a dozen ways of testing it, as well as the ramifications of E=MC^2, that it's speed hasn't changed.

To say that the universe is only 6000 years old is to say that God deliberately created a lying illusion. I don't buy that.

As far as what Jesus said, the Genesis narrative is clear that God's works of creation ended with Adam and Eve, not began with them. Ergo, "beginning of creation" must likewise refer to the earliest age of creation being finished, not to day 1, and therefore has no effect on whether we read days 1-6 as being 24 hours or long ages.

Shalom

45 posted on 11/25/2014 9:17:32 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com)
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To: Buggman
As far as what Jesus said, the Genesis narrative is clear that God's works of creation ended with Adam and Eve, not began with them. Ergo, "beginning of creation" must likewise refer to the earliest age of creation being finished, not to day 1, and therefore has no effect on whether we read days 1-6 as being 24 hours or long ages.

Well, even though God rested on the seventh day and invited man into his rest, try to not limit his creation to just the things that were apparent during the first six days, since it is evident that time began at some point and continues to exist.

An example: God created you and me in our mothers' wombs and knew us; knit us together, so to speak.
49 posted on 11/25/2014 9:28:36 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Buggman

You may want to take a look at Humphrey’s White Hole Cosmology.

http://creationwiki.org/White_hole_cosmology

Relativistic speeds are implied in these verses:

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Psa 104:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:


50 posted on 11/25/2014 9:30:38 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Buggman
As far as what Jesus said, the Genesis narrative is clear that God's works of creation ended with Adam and Eve, not began with them. Ergo, "beginning of creation" must likewise refer to the earliest age of creation being finished, not to day 1, and therefore has no effect on whether we read days 1-6 as being 24 hours or long ages.

Agreed.

51 posted on 11/25/2014 9:32:19 AM PST by Claud
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To: Buggman

Yes, a couple of seconds after Adam’s formation, he was perfect. Who’s to say that the rest of creation wasn’t perfect as well (it was). Then the Fall.

We’re seeing light coming from far more than the “Big Bang” estimation of the age of the universe as well, so that isn’t a valid argument.

As far as the “lying illusion”, I’ve addressed that as well. God told us exactly what happened. How is that “lying”?


57 posted on 11/25/2014 10:44:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Buggman

An answer to the starlight issue is in this book.

82 posted on 11/25/2014 1:37:11 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Buggman

**The universe, on the other hand, exhibits many evidences of being billions of years old. Just to begin with, we’re seeing light coming from far more than 6000 light-years away, and we know from over a dozen ways of testing it, as well as the ramifications of E=MC^2, that it’s speed hasn’t changed.**

Well, I don’t know about the universe’s speed being constant, but, I do know that the earth and the moon stopped spinning for most of a day just so a man could lead his army to victory. (Joshua 10:12-14)

Now, I’m no scientist, but it seems to me that for that event to have taken place, someone was holding a WHOLE LOT of stuff together on this planet that should have come unglued (to put it in simplest terms. And at the very least, the people would have gotten some serious sunburn on exposed skin.).

Or, how about water pots full of water that suddenly have sugars, proteins, acids, etc? (I’ll allow for some minerals to be in the water from the start, since I doubt that Cana’s water supply was distilled.)

God can make ANY THING happen. That’s why he’s God.


98 posted on 11/25/2014 9:44:33 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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