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To: Buggman

Yes, a couple of seconds after Adam’s formation, he was perfect. Who’s to say that the rest of creation wasn’t perfect as well (it was). Then the Fall.

We’re seeing light coming from far more than the “Big Bang” estimation of the age of the universe as well, so that isn’t a valid argument.

As far as the “lying illusion”, I’ve addressed that as well. God told us exactly what happened. How is that “lying”?


57 posted on 11/25/2014 10:44:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Who’s to say that the rest of creation wasn’t perfect as well (it was).

Indeed it was. How would an Old-Earth Creationist perspective be a problem for that?

We’re seeing light coming from far more than the “Big Bang” estimation of the age of the universe as well, so that isn’t a valid argument.

Actually, it is. The reason we can see light coming from 15 billion light years away when the universe is only an estimated 13.8 billion years old is because it has continued to stretch out, just as Scripture predicted. Basically, the fabric of space-time itself isn't constrained by the speed of light, so light that began travelling when the size of the universe was smaller effectively travels from further away by the time it reaches us.

As far as the “lying illusion”, I’ve addressed that as well. God told us exactly what happened. How is that “lying”?

We currently track the detonation of super-novas in distant galaxies. If we see a star explode in Andromeda, 2 million light-years away, and the universe is only 6000 years old, that means that the star we just saw explode never even existed. Therefore, anything further than 6000 light-years away would have no actual existence and the appearance of a universe beyond that point would be a deliberate deception on the part of its Creator.

Shalom

65 posted on 11/25/2014 11:31:51 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com)
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To: MrB
Yes, a couple of seconds after Adam’s formation, he was perfect. Who’s to say that the rest of creation wasn’t perfect as well (it was).

I've always thought this as well.

It's widely accepted among christians that God created Adam fully formed.

Wouldn't it be logical to believe that the rest of creation was fully formed as well when God created it? Why Adam and not the earth?

79 posted on 11/25/2014 1:32:19 PM PST by what's up
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