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To: CynicalBear
So when they searched the scriptures to see if what Paul said was so you say it may still not be true? Got it.

No, you don't understand, or you are unwilling to understand. When the Jews of Berea heard Paul in the synagogue they heard true doctrine. Their search of the Scriptures could not negate anything Paul taught because they were unqualified to judge apostolic doctrine. They could only receive it or reject it. The search of the Hebrew Scriptures was beneficial to them in reinforcing that teaching. It is impossible for them, or you, to prove apostolic doctrine false from the Hebrew Scriptures. You are not an apostle. You do not have that authority.

475 posted on 11/16/2014 7:43:21 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
>>You do not have that authority.<<

So says the Catholic cult. Scripture on the other hand...

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

476 posted on 11/16/2014 7:49:13 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: af_vet_1981
Their search of the Scriptures could not negate anything Paul taught because they were unqualified to judge apostolic doctrine.

MY search of them surely shows how ROME teaches NON-apostolic 'doctrine'!!

510 posted on 11/16/2014 12:04:51 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear
No, you don't understand, or you are unwilling to understand. When the Jews of Berea heard Paul in the synagogue they heard true doctrine. Their search of the Scriptures could not negate anything Paul taught because they were unqualified to judge apostolic doctrine. They could only receive it or reject it. The search of the Hebrew Scriptures was beneficial to them in reinforcing that teaching. It is impossible for them, or you, to prove apostolic doctrine false from the Hebrew Scriptures. You are not an apostle. You do not have that authority.

I don't think CB is the one lacking understanding here. The Apostles preached the word and the Holy Spirit imbibed those words with power which was why the gospel was received by those whom the Holy Spirit had prepared to hear it. Paul said:

    For we know, brothers and sisters loved by God, that he has chosen you, because our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake. You became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you welcomed the message in the midst of severe suffering with the joy given by the Holy Spirit. (I Thess. 1:4-6)

    We put no stumbling block in anyone’s path, so that our ministry will not be discredited. Rather, as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance; in troubles, hardships and distresses; in beatings, imprisonments and riots; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left; through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; known, yet regarded as unknown; dying, and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed; sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything. (2 Cor. 6:3-10)

No one alive since John the Apostle died is a real Apostle. Their "authority", their "power" remains in the teachings they left behind for us - sacred Scripture. All that Jesus taught, all that the Holy Spirit inspired to be written, is contained in the writings we call the Bible. It continued to have the highest authority because it alone is the God-breathed truth. No person today can assert they are an authority OVER Scripture. To do so is an affront to Almighty God. If someone comes along and claims to be speaking the truth and what they say is not backed up by God's word, they are to be shunned.

The Gospel the Apostles preached was instilled with power by the Holy Spirit. Paul praised the noble Bereans because they studied the Scriptures to see if what was being preached to them was verified by Scripture - and it WAS. If Peter, the first of the Apostles, could be withstood due to a contradiction between what he said and did with the truth of God, then we are also encouraged to judge BY Scripture if false teachers come among us. Appealing to authority means nothing if that authority is not backed up by the word and with the power of the Holy Spirit. For God has said:

    Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
      “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

    Therefore,
      “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” And, “I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.”

522 posted on 11/16/2014 12:26:33 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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