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1 posted on 11/12/2014 9:16:20 PM PST by GonzoII
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“5. Man has a natural desire to live forever.”

That sounds more like wishful thinking than a proof.


2 posted on 11/12/2014 9:23:37 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Mark for later. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 11/12/2014 9:30:57 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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5 posted on 11/12/2014 9:31:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Heavy & contentious topic. :) There is a concept of “Karma” in Hindu tradition. In Persian/Zoroastrian is called “Kar_e Maah” (result of our actions/deeds). It’s part of Natural Law. What attracts & what repels. Re-incarnation, as in coming back to Earth, being part of material life, as we know it? I’m not so sure. But, personally I believe there is a distinction between soul and body; the former may just move on..


7 posted on 11/12/2014 9:35:15 PM PST by odds
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4. The Intellect Can Reflect Upon Its Own Act of Knowledge

My intellect constantly reflects on that. Oh, I thought it said lack of knowledge.

8 posted on 11/12/2014 9:42:16 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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thx


9 posted on 11/12/2014 9:42:18 PM PST by PGR88
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The FALSE DOCTRINE of the "immortality of the soul" is one of Satan's greatest deceptions!

Genesis 3:19; Genesis 2:7
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - (5315) nephesh; a breathing creature

Genesis 1:20; vs 21; vs 24; vs 25
Roman Catholic and Anglican doctrines in the sixteen hundreds did not dare render the word nephesh as "soul" in these passages!
Numbers 19:11 (dead BODY); vs 22 (soul)
Ezekiel 18:4 ; vs 20 (the soul that sinneth IT shall DIE! )
Leviticus 19:22; 21:1, 22:4; Numbers 5:2; Numbers 6:11
Numbers 9:6, 7, 10
Leviticus 21:11, Numbers 6:6; 19:11, 13, and also in Haggai 2:1, 3
Revelation 8:9
Revelation 16:3

Acts 2:41-43; 3:23; 7:14; 27:37; Romans 2:9; 13: 1; 1 Corinthians 15:45; James 5:20; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 2:14; Revelation 6:9; 18:13; 20:4

Matthew 16:25 ; vs 26 (soul vs life) (should be "life" in verse 26)
Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20
Job 14:1, 2
1 Corinthians 15:50-52
Job 14:12-15
Psalm 49:12-20
Psalms 116:15
Romans chapter 8, all of it, then read verse 29 again!

I SAY AGAIN:
13 posted on 11/12/2014 10:10:21 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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“I think that the Christian religion is the one religion that most clearly deserves to be honored and respected whether or not its claim to be a divine revelation is true.”

Dont usually read any of the religious posts but this is an accurate comment from my perspective..... and you can sure get roasted on this site for saying things like that.

14 posted on 11/12/2014 10:11:48 PM PST by jcon40
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Bump for later


15 posted on 11/12/2014 10:28:40 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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Of course when the bible is ACTUALLY consulted one very quickly sees that there is no such thing as an immortal soul:

1Ti 6:13 I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate,
1Ti 6:14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing,
1Ti 6:15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 1Ti 6:16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.

Nobody has immortality except Christ.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

The choices are "to perish"...and the greek means to be fully destroyed...versus "eternal life". Immortality. Man without Christ does not have any kind of eternal life nor immortality.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

A mortal can only put on immortality when Christ returns, at the last trumpet.

There is no "natural" immortality. For Christians the doctrine of the immortal soul WITHOUT Christ should be seen as blasphemous for it proposes immortality WITHOUT Christ.

Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Eternal life, immortality, is a gift from God. Not accepting that gift means that one is NOT immortal.

22 posted on 11/13/2014 6:10:08 AM PST by DouglasKC
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Seven Proofs for the Natural Immortality of the Human Soul

HMMMmmm...

I saw NO 'proof' of anything here!

52 posted on 11/14/2014 11:51:56 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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BTTT!


82 posted on 11/15/2014 8:37:35 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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mark


85 posted on 11/16/2014 1:19:03 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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