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Today Is A Day Of Shame For The Catholic Church
Restore-DC-Catholicism ^ | 11/8/14 | Restore-DC-Catholicism

Posted on 11/09/2014 3:52:53 PM PST by BlatherNaut

We knew this would happen since September. The announcement appeared today on the Vatican website that Cardinal Raymond Burke has been removed from his post as Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura and will now be patron of the Order of Malta. Until today, Burke was the highest ranking American in the Vatican, overseeing the Vatican's highest court. Now his position is largely ceremonial. Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake about it. Cardinal Burke, for all his loyal and impeccable service to the Church, has been shamefully insulted by the Pope. Some will wince at that last statement, but it is what it is. LifeSiteNews has more detail. On that page is an open letter to the Cardinal, thanking him for his service at the Vatican.

I now link to an archive of all posts I've written that touch upon Cardinal Burke and how he's stood for the Faith. I'm also now reading "Remaining In The Truth Of Christ". The book is an anthology of articles written by Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Pell and others that defend the Church's teaching on marriage and Holy Communion. It was written and published in anticipation of the attacks that were sustained on the Church's teachings in those two crucial areas. We all recall that Cardinal Kasper fired some opening volleys on the Magisterium in those areas. In Cardinal Burke's article entitled "The Canonical Nullity Of The Marriage Process As The Search For The Truth", Cardinal Burke contradicts Cardinal Kasper by name. This book is no doubt part of the reason why the Pope has thrown Cardinal Burke under the bus, because truth is spoken in that book. Ignatius Press published it; I got my copy through Amazon.

It is this same Cardinal Kasper who spoke at CUA yesterday and who I suspect will be poisoning contributing to the USCCB meeting next week. Kasper claimed to speak for the pope; since the latter never repudiated that I assume there's truth to Kasper's statement. Moreover the pope praised Kasper's "serene theology" during the SinNod. Burke took issue with some of that "sereneness". I strongly suspect that earned him the sacking that was made official today.

To Cardinal Burke: Your Eminence, thank you for your service to Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church in the face of formidable opposition. That you have maintained fidelity and charity - even as that opposition came from the highest offices of the Vatican - redounds to your credit and I trust, to outpouring of graces upon the Church that stands in desperate need of those graces. God bless you, sir, and we will keep you and the Church in prayer.


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To: Cry if I Wanna

The church is the inventor of modern politics.


21 posted on 11/09/2014 5:14:42 PM PST by dila813
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To: bboop
He is not going to Malta. He ha been assigned as Patron of the Order of Malta.

The Order of Malta is in charge of many charitable services around the world.

22 posted on 11/09/2014 5:20:32 PM PST by mware
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To: slapshot

“Those 400$/hr attorneys the various dioceses tap to answer sexual abuse cases come from where?????”

Overwhelmingly covered by insurance policies, diocesan resources, donors, and sales of properties.


23 posted on 11/09/2014 5:22:05 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

don’t kid yourself What goes in collection plate covers these “ transgrssions”


24 posted on 11/09/2014 5:36:04 PM PST by slapshot (Z)
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To: bboop

We read in Acts, Saint Paul was shipwrecked on Malta, encountered a poisonous snake on his arm that was unable to harm him. Paul preached on Malta before continuing his Journey to Rome. (I can see a certain irony here).


25 posted on 11/09/2014 5:50:52 PM PST by Dayatdabeach1791 (History is a bitch)
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To: slapshot

“don’t kid yourself What goes in collection plate covers these “ transgrssions””

Did you not see the word “donors” in my post?


26 posted on 11/09/2014 6:03:36 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: BlatherNaut
H.H. Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI: “Cardinal Raymond Burke is one of the great cardinals of the Church.”

St. Catherine of Siena, "We've had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence."

27 posted on 11/09/2014 6:14:32 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: Dqban22

St. Catherine of Siena, “We’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.”


Good advice. So true.


28 posted on 11/09/2014 7:53:29 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: BlatherNaut

With the Pope being infallible, then Cardinal Burke deserves the demotion and insult. Or, the Pope is fallible. You must accept one or the other.


29 posted on 11/09/2014 7:58:47 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin ( Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you,)
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To: Friendofgeorge

“Don’t be so quick to dismiss Angelica Zambrano’s”

I went to a couple of her websites and couldn’t help but notice a healthy amount of advertising. Does this fund the website only or do Angelica and her mother get a cut? If they’re not doing well, they need to do lunch with one of the agents of the phony but rich Medjugorje “visionaries”.

The following is from Angelica’s mother:

“My name is Maxima Zambrano Mora ... We were fasting for 15 days, and crying out to God. My daughter Angelica also joined us. ... (We) continued praying and crying out at home, waiting for God to speak to us.”

Question: What kind of fast was this? Fasting should be a part of our lives, but too much fasting could set one up for delusions. The mother also said they were waiting for God to speak to us. God speaks to us in a number of ways - Through the voice of the Church, through conscience, through other people, through events. It’s good to pray and fast for a special need, but did the mother think she was somehow entitled to a special revelation from God? Years ago, a local woman was the leader in the area of the Med-heads (Medjugorje followers). She would pray the fifteen decades of the Rosary daily, fast a couple of times a week, and was busy day and night with Medjugorje events. Her marriage broke up. God’s Will is first and foremost for human beings to fulfill the duties in their state of life, their specific vocations.

One of the Medjugorje seers was interviewed by a neutral source and found by that source to be “hysterical”.

Here’s another quote from one of the websites: “She (Angelica Zambrano) saw a vision of the rapture, and saw some pregnant women who were left on Earth but their babies were raptured out of their stomach.”

Just stupid. It makes God out to be like one of the monsters in an “Alien” movie. My initial reaction to the quote was to think of zombie movies.

Have Angelica and/or her mother submitted to any type of psychological testing to rule out any possible psychological defect?

Believe it or not, the Catholic Church doesn’t even officially teach that Judas is in Hell. But this girl is shown that John Paul, Selena, and Jacko are in Hell? Seems designed to draw in empty, pop culture followers and Catholic haters.

The keyboard on my iPad was going haywire while I was writing this. But I couldn’t throw holy water on it because that would probably ruin it.


30 posted on 11/09/2014 8:34:34 PM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION

I have no idea about funding or anything about their affiliations, sorry.


31 posted on 11/09/2014 9:05:39 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Justice for officer Darren------------ PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Papal Infallibility

Misconceptions?

Non-Catholics often confuse the pope’s gift of ‘infallibility’ with ‘impeccability’. They think the Catholic Church is claiming her Popes are sinless or that the Pope is claiming inspiration from God for every pronouncement he makes. This is not the case. In fact, infallibility is attached to his office, not his person. It is a protective gift, not a creative one introducing new revelation. Peter Kreeft observes that the Church should not be mistaken for a political body because it is an organic body and no organic body can be a democracy. It must have a head. Christ gave the Church a head.

What is the gift of infallibility?

The dogma of infallibility was formally proclaimed at the First Vatican Council in 1870. There are several requirements for a dogmatic, papal infallible pronouncement: (1) The pronouncement must be made by the lawful successor to Peter. (2) The subject matter must be in the area of faith and morals. (3) The pope must be speaking ex cathedra, that is from the very seat and office of Peter. In this way he must be specifically intending to proclaim a doctrine, binding the entire Church to its assent. If one or more of these elements is missing, there is no infallible pronouncement. Most “examples” of papal “errors” emerge when critics ignore the necessity of these three points. (Madrid, pp. 135-136, Pope Fiction)

http://www.catholicfaithandreason.org/papal-infallibility.html


32 posted on 11/09/2014 9:19:56 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Friendofgeorge

I still don’t see her in this article at all. Why are you bringing her up?


33 posted on 11/10/2014 2:43:35 AM PST by piusv
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To: Cry if I Wanna

how about morality?
being a fag is not moral.


34 posted on 11/10/2014 4:29:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: piusv

Catholic Shame... Pope in hell, dont get the connection?


35 posted on 11/10/2014 8:15:54 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (Justice for officer Darren------------ PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; don-o
"With the Pope being infallible, then Cardinal Burke deserves the demotion and insult. Or, the Pope is fallible. You must accept one or the other.

Mene, there is a a problem of definition in your argument.If you had said "impeccable" rather than "infallible" you would have been OK. Impeccable means without sin or fault. IF the CC claimed that the Pope was impeccable, then he couldn't be wrong in any of his administration, his diplomacy, or anything else.

However the CC doesn't claim the Pope is impeccable. We say "infallible," which means something entirely different. As the Church defines this in her own documents, the pope is speaking "infallibly" only under very rare and limited circumstances: when

(The words in quotes are from Pastor Aeternus, chap. 4)

For a teaching by a pope or ecumenical council to be recognized as infallible, the teaching must be:

This happens only very rarely. The last time was in 1950 with Pope Pius XII's Munificentissimus Deus statement.

In 2005 Pope Benedict XVI remarked, "The Pope is not an oracle; he is infallible in very rare situations, as we know". Pope John XXIII once stated it with a humorous twist: "I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible".

36 posted on 11/10/2014 8:57:38 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of informaton.)
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To: Friendofgeorge; piusv
Catholics have always realized that a pope could go to hell.

Pope Innocent III appeared, on the day of his death in Perugia (Italy), to the Abbess Lutgarda in Brabant (Belgium) --- engulfed in flames. He told her he was in Purgatory, but only because by God's grace he had been able to repent of his very serious sins before he died --- sins which would have merited him hell. He asked for her prayers to get him out of Purgatory, which could last, he said, for centuries because of the gravity of his sins.

So we've had very nearly hell-bound popes warn us of the possibility of pontiffs in hell.

37 posted on 11/10/2014 9:05:49 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of informaton.)
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To: Dayatdabeach1791

Good catch.


38 posted on 11/10/2014 9:40:57 AM PST by tioga
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The issue of infallibility is not what you are suggesting. Read up on it, no one is guaranteed to be sin free, not even the Pope.
39 posted on 11/10/2014 9:43:00 AM PST by tioga
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To: Friendofgeorge
Catholic Shame... Pope in hell, dont get the connection?

Actually, no. I mean, I could pick any number of things on the internet that might equate with "Catholic Shame". I'm still befuddled why you picked this one. Do you follow this person's views on the regular? I have to wonder how many people even know who she is....I know I didn't.

40 posted on 11/10/2014 1:15:43 PM PST by piusv
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