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To: SpirituTuo
To the author: Thanks for taking exactly what the media says at face value, and then running off in every other direction.

Since the document wasn’t released in English, let’s wait until the official translation comes out.


The best proof that the Pope speaks the word of God is that there is so much argument of him not meaning what he said and we don't know what he said because of translation problems. Maybe we could consult some older and better manuscripts of what he said./ sarc

34 posted on 10/30/2014 10:01:44 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
"Maybe we could consult some older and better manuscripts of what he said./ sarc"

Or we could just throw out the things that contradict our preconceptions and justify doing so because a mythical group of Anti-Christ Jews who we pretend had authority over such things in the year 100 didn't consider those parts we throw out to be inspired.

44 posted on 10/30/2014 12:37:35 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
I seriously doubt the reporters of this story speak Italian, and are using a internet translator. Pretty sloppy, if you ask me, and certainly shouldn't be considered a definitive source. One more versed in Italian than I indicated the word "demiurge" was used in Italian, and translated into English as "divine." Since I don't speak Italian, I looked it up, and found it is also a term used in English. The wikipedia definition is: The demiurge (/ˈdɛmiˌɜrdʒ/) is a concept from the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe. The term was subsequently adopted by the Gnostics. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily thought of as being the same as the creator figure in the familiar monotheistic sense, because both the demiurge itself plus the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are considered either uncreated and eternal, or the product of some other being, depending on the system. ...In the arch-dualist ideology of the various Gnostic systems, the material universe is evil, while the non-material world is good. Accordingly, the demiurge is malevolent, as linked to the material world. Words certainly matter, but we have to remember that a reporter is out to make a story that will catch people's attention, often at the price of accuracy.
46 posted on 10/30/2014 12:51:23 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Since the document wasn’t released in English, let’s wait until the official translation comes out.

We're all still waiting for your official translations on all the other things your pope has said which you guys claim is a mistranslation...

74 posted on 10/30/2014 6:17:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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