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City to drop pastor subpoenas
Chron.com ^ | October 29, 2014 | Katherine Driessen

Posted on 10/29/2014 10:05:10 AM PDT by Gamecock

The City of Houston will withdraw its controversial subpoenas of five pastors tied to a lawsuit over the city's equal rights ordinance, Mayor Annise Parker announced at a news conference Wednesday.

The announcement came amid a national firestorm about the subpoenas, which have prompted outrage among Christian conservatives. Parker said two meetings yesterday, one with local pastors and another with national clergy, persuaded her to pull the subpoenas altogether.

The subpoenas are part of a discovery phase in a suit filed by equal rights opponents, who largely take issue with the rights the law extends to gay and transgender residents.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: houstonpastors; sermons; sermonssubpoenas; subpoenas
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1 posted on 10/29/2014 10:05:10 AM PDT by Gamecock
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The subpoenas are part of a discovery phase in a suit filed by equal rights opponents, who largely take issue with the rights the law extends to gay and transgender residents.

And just why were the sermons required?

2 posted on 10/29/2014 10:06:21 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: Gamecock

Houston, we have a problem. Never forget your Mayor’s October Surprise of 2014. This is not over, and won’t be until she is out of office.


3 posted on 10/29/2014 10:09:02 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Gamecock

Don’t confuse the word ‘will’ with ‘shall’ especially if the word ‘will’ doesn’t have a clear deadline with consequences.


4 posted on 10/29/2014 10:09:05 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Gamecock

The authoritarian would be tyrants wanted to find hard evidence of “hate” “speech”.

everyone has the right to loved or hated.....


5 posted on 10/29/2014 10:10:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock

The rights of free speech and religion far precedes “gay rights”, and is all-inclusive. “Gay rights” are group-specific and do not trump the first amendment!


6 posted on 10/29/2014 10:11:53 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Gamecock

Joel 0-steen must be disappointed. He gave an invocation for the Houston mayor, and his silence on this issue (in support of the pastors 1st amendment religious speech rights) speaks volumes.


7 posted on 10/29/2014 10:13:38 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Gamecock

These pastors erred, because this was clearly a “ripe” opportunity for them to file a civil rights lawsuits against the mayor. The type of suit she would use against them in a heartbeat, if she had the slightest opportunity to do so.

Importantly, civil rights lawsuits were intentionally made difficult to defend against, because they require you to prove a negative, that you are *not* what you are accused of.

And, if they were successful in their lawsuit against the mayor and council, it would have a profound “chilling” effect against many other anti-Christian bigots in the US.


8 posted on 10/29/2014 10:13:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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And just why were the sermons required?

Who cares?

She's welcome to listen to any of the sermons preached in the church of which I'm a member. In fact, we would be happy to welcome her to any of our assemblies. She needs to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, doesn't she?

When Paul was in prison in Ceaserea, he used his two "hearings" to preach the gospel to two governors and a king (plus all their accompanists). That Paul...he was determined to preach to people no matter what the circumstances!
9 posted on 10/29/2014 10:16:10 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Gamecock

She’ll find another way to attack them.


10 posted on 10/29/2014 10:18:12 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Gamecock

The pastors should sue the mayor, city manager, city attorney and city council over this. Their civil rights were violated, or attempted to be violated


11 posted on 10/29/2014 10:21:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: grumpygresh

Osteen thinks Obama has done a great job too


12 posted on 10/29/2014 10:22:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I don't know what the charge would be, but I'd sue the lezbo be-atch for citing me in the first place.

Christians aren't to go to law with each other, but I see no prohibition against sueing someone who has done you a wrong.

13 posted on 10/29/2014 10:23:27 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: LearsFool

Many churches record the sermons for the internet these days


14 posted on 10/29/2014 10:23:48 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yes, there is little doubt about it


15 posted on 10/29/2014 10:24:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Gamecock

And just why were the sermons required?”

Because her busy schedule does not allow her to attend church and she wanted to be able to read them for inspiration when she had spare time. /s/


16 posted on 10/29/2014 10:26:07 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: grumpygresh

Although nobody has to subpoena Osteen’s sermons.
They are on 185 channels.


17 posted on 10/29/2014 10:32:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gamecock
'The subpoenas are part of a discovery phase in a suit filed by equal rights opponents' Wrong. That would be 'special rights opponents'.
19 posted on 10/29/2014 10:35:43 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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I can only hope that the mayor’s office was flooded with thousands of copies of sermons on CD, DVD, books, etc...and not only from Houston, but from the entire US.


20 posted on 10/29/2014 10:40:53 AM PDT by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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