Posted on 10/26/2014 9:58:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A ‘Christian’ wedding chapel—a private business—in Idaho is suing for the right not to marry gay couples. There is no such right. Yet.
The first thing you need to know is that most “wedding chapels” are not actually chapels. They are private businesses, sometimes run by ordained ministers who are thus licensed to perform marriage ceremonies, but just as often run by Elvis impersonators. Thus, the question of how marriage-equality laws apply to private wedding chapels is ostensibly a question of under what circumstances the government can lawfully step on a for-profit company’s blue suede shoes.
Ground zero for this debate is now Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. There, the city is apparently requiring the Hitching Post Lakeside Chapel to officiate gay weddings. Now, it’s hard to imagine any gay couple wanting to get married at the Hitching Post Lakeside Chapel. Their website talks about “the difference between men and women” and says “women respond to love positively because they were created that way” and “men respond to respect because that is the way they are created.”
Yeah. And the private “chapel” reportedly gives its newlyweds a conservative Christian CD with hetero-reinforcing marriage sermons. Then again, given the über-butch Paul Bunyan log-cabin façade, if some gay men mistook the Hitching Post Lakeside Chapel for a for a Western bar, that would be understandable....
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None of the businesses that have been attacked are government-owned; as such, they are not required to treat everyone with the neutrality that is constitutionally required of the government.
As far as I can see there are no law saying I can not discriminate against some one.
The states are not allowed to discriminate but see if they uphold your right to give your 17 year old son a beer when the bartender says no.
Take a dog into the wedding chapel and when they say no call the cops and see if they will force them to marry you to your dog which is almost as bad as a man getting married to another man.
I agree, leave Jesus out of it because you may show your ignorance.
Any one who knows the Bible a little and is half bright may have to admit that it was Christ who spoke the word that destroyed the queer cities with fire.
Yes, Jesus spoke a great deal about love and compassion and so did John but too many people including some clergymen are too stupid to understand what they were saying.
Unicorn fantasy. Here in the real world, it can't work. The culture is going to adopt a heterosexual, nuclear family model and receive all the benefits that model brings, or it will adopt the androgyny model, where "family" becomes such a diffuse term as to become meaningless, the cultural learning that occurs in the nuclear family will be increasingly replaced by the artificial culture of the state, and all the drek that comes with the homosexual disorder will become institutionalized as virtue. Compulsory virtue.
There is no sustainable middle ground. They will not "live and let live." We can't either. We have no choice now.
The "hurtness" of individual gays cannot be allowed to paralyze us into inaction against the movement for fear of seeming "insensitive." If we have to seem insensitive to some in order to win others, so be it. Fight back.
Peace,
SR
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, ****OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF****
-US Constitution, 1st Amendment
You read my line “You can’t reason with crazy people” from the previous post.
You may be right about the outcome of this situation, but I have to seek peace and put my principles first with the help of my God.
My views may be pushed aside by the insanity of this conflict as its unfolds, but I will try to live by them so help me God.
I have spoken out against the LGBT movement’s intentions-actions in my posts and I will continue to do so.
I will not be silent towards the persecution of those favoring traditional values....
but if I can show love and kindness to the LGBT people in my daily life I will take the opportunity to do so, they are broken and hurt people with many extracting revenge in their pain with political extremism.
What a twisted bunch of nonsense.
How does making a profit instantly neutralize religious freedom?
I don’t want to impose anything on them either. I just want them to stop their BS on everybody else.
This is worth having a shooting war over.
John Kerry.
This is because the sacrament of Marriage has been lost and not defended.
If you’re a laundromat and you don’t offer dish washing services, you don’t violate the civil rights of those with dirty dishes.
Say: “Our church only offers the sacrament of Marriage. See the Holy Bible for a definition.”
The question I have for you is how have they been hurt, and by whose hand? When a human being is injured, they do not have the right to enforce their "justice" on anyone and everyone not associated with their injury.
Their actions beg for anger and disrespect in turn - they are deliberately inflicting harm on the majority. In doing so, they are abasing one of our fundamental rights - one that is not supposed to be violable by the god of the humanists, government.
I’ll reconsider if someone can show me exactly where in the US Constitution it mentions something about “the right to not be offended?”
The ability to discriminate IS freedom, religious and otherwise.
Our people can have non-discrimination, or they can have freedom. They can’t have both.
Sally needs to take herself and her signif to a mosque and demand they marry them.
Exactly, there is no right to not be offended. That’s the next step however. In the UK you go to jail for offending racial minority groups.
I was reading an article on the sex abuse scandal in England that started with the allegations against the late entertainer Jimmy Saville.
One of Saville’s victims was interviewed and reported on as a transgendered person.
Then I read that another transgendered person in this country, the child of Sonny and Cher, Chaz Bono, also had a sexual abuse experience in childhood.
FReepers who have exchanged posts with me also say there is a pattern in the LGBT population of sexual abuse.
I’ve noted that in some sex abuse lawsuits against the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts in the recent past, LGBT activists are among the victims suing for damages.
Who are the child sex abusers in our country anyway?
They are in the system ranging from teachers to coaches includng the most infamous one, a football coach Sandusky of Penn State.
Then there are clergy of all religious denominations. I have been in the media and read the stories of rabbis, priests, ministers of fundamentalist and liberal Protestant sects etc. etc.
I think its payback time for religion from people who in some cases at least have been really victimized by members of the clergy......they also have grievances against angry parents who were very religious but acted like drunks, the way I lived my life when my kids were young.
None of my kids have “come out” as gay but if they did I would have to take into consideration my role in the matter....
People of religious backgrounds need some humility in this situation.....
I must be humble but I must also stand the ground of our First Amendment and the Constitution if needed.
Refusing to Marry Same-Sex Couples Isn’t Religious Freedom, It’s Just Discrimination
That is just a plain stupid statement.
See post #37.....
When Henry VIII pushed easy divorce and remarriage for himself (a liberal view of sex and marriage) it led to the Church of England and conflicts galore for a century or so in the UK.....
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