[Swordmaker]

Shroud of Turin PING about an Historian claims that the Shroud was made for Easter celebrations in the 14th Century and that there is no evidence of the Shroud before 1355 AD. But there is, including the 11th Century Pray Codex showing the Shroud with the poker holes, which shoots down his entire thesis.

If you want on or off the Shroud Ping List, Freepmail me.

[Defiant]

Sure thing, Mr. Historian. Just tell us how it was made and I’ll be on my way.

[Squawk 8888]

Ping.

[UCANSEE2]

So... really this is just a press release from an author trying to sell a new book.

[UCANSEE2]

What if the author is correct about it being used in an Easter Ritual, AND the reason they used that piece of cloth was because it was reputed to be the burial cloth of Christ ?

[ifinnegan]

Makes sense.

There’s no reason to believe in Shroud of Turin or any artifacts.

Pagans do that sort of stuff.

There are all sorts of Buddha’s tooths that are venerated, for example.

I think it does not diminish it’s uniqueness that it would be something made to commemorate the Resurrection in times past.

I think it’s fantastic that such an artifact exists from our Christian heritage.

But believing in Holy Grails, pieces of wood from the cross, Shroud of Turin is superstition.

[maine-iac7]

God grief, what rock has this guy been hiding under for the lase 30+ years?

There are libraries worth of expert research and tests and hypothesis, books, films, - a virtual plethora of evidence testifying not only to the authentic dating of The Shroud to the correct time and area - but also every tortured attempt at disproving it or duplicating it’s method of manufacture has been shot down.

I’ve been following The Shroud since before the STURP team on 1978.

But perhaps this History Channel documentary done a few years ago is the most inclusive for someone new to the evidence and studies. Well worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJPJ4JwHeE

[timestax]

[kik5150]

It’s a dot matrix image with a resolution equal to the best commercial printer, containing 3D info, on both sides of the cloth, yet the image is not on the cloth fibers but on the thin film of dried soapwort which was left on the cloth when it was made. Pretty neat trick.

[sphinx]

bttt

[HiTech RedNeck]

Sometimes even the scientific has to confess its limits. Release of neutrons from an earthquake?

The Shroud we have could well be the real McCoy. But how about the Savior whom it wrapped? The Shroud can’t come to you in your distress and love you. It can’t perpetually pardon your sins. It can’t arrange answers to your prayers that could have only come from God. These capabilities belong squarely to the divine.

[annalex]

the author of Holy Bones, Holy Dust: How Relics Shaped the History of Medieval Europe, studied

Duh.

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Uh oh.

[2ndDivisionVet]

We couldn’t make it today with all our hi-test technology, but some monk or artisan in the middle ages was able to slap it together...

[ZULU]

Bull