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Vatican backtracks on gay comments (and Liberalism is a mental disorder)
http://www.kvia.com ^ | October 14, 2014 | Delia Gallagher and Daniel Burke

Posted on 10/14/2014 1:26:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Such statements seem to be in line with the more merciful approach the church has taken toward gays and lesbians under Pope Francis. In 2013, Francis famously said, “Who am I to judge” gay people?


That is right, you can not judge them but you can keep them from taking over the Church, by keeping them out which is what Paul said which is why I knew that.

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21 posted on 10/14/2014 2:00:21 PM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: NKP_Vet

This present day equivocal two-stepping by the Vatican makes one wonder if Lutherans and Anglicans didn’t have it right about Rome.


22 posted on 10/14/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ravenwolf

“Who am I to judge” gay people?”

Taken out of context. What he said was “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” He means homosexuals who are living a chaste lifestyle. The act of sodomy is a sin.

But dimwitted liberals took the “who am I to judge” words and ran with it, purposely misquoting what he said for their own personal agenda to legalize homosexual activity and the homosexual lifestyle. The only thing that bothered me about the statement was him using the PC word “gay” to describe a homosexual. First pope in history to not refer to them as homosexuals, which they certainly are. The word means “happy” and most homosexuals I have met in my life are anything but happy. Most are mean-spirited, vindictive, miserable people who stay mad because most people deplore their immoral, perverted lifestyle. They want acceptance for this degeneracy and the only people that will give it to them are liberals, which is a mental disorder itself.


23 posted on 10/14/2014 2:25:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NKP_Vet; All

Although I may not be seeing through the confusion created by the Catholic-hating media, I don’t see the Holy Spirit working through the Catholic Church.


24 posted on 10/14/2014 2:26:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: piusv

I am not a Roman Catholic and even I agree with that statement.


25 posted on 10/14/2014 2:28:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NKP_Vet
and did not accurately reflect their discussions here

Of course not, since the Pope decided to add 6 liberals to the committee to write the document because those who were elected were too conservative.

26 posted on 10/14/2014 2:28:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tax-chick

One thing will come from this. We know it was the Pope himself who watered this document down when he saw who the members elected to write it and added 6 liberals.


27 posted on 10/14/2014 2:29:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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"Francis famously said, "Who am I to judge" gay people?"

With all due respect to Pope Frances, he is evidently unaware of Paul's words of 1 Corinthians 5:12-13. In that passage Paul indicates that, yes, Christians have the responsibility to judge church members who show by their actions that they have probably rejected Jesus.

28 posted on 10/14/2014 2:38:27 PM PDT by Amendment10
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No!

It’s the liberals who are backtracking after their hopes for endorsement of their agenda were dashed.


29 posted on 10/14/2014 2:38:35 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: GeronL

I disagree. We don’t really know much of anything. We can imagine, speculate, fictionalize, believe this or that story, but of facts we have very few, and even fewer from reliable and/or verifiable sources.


30 posted on 10/14/2014 2:50:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Feeling fine about the end of the world!)
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To: Amendment10

If they are living a chaste lifestyle and not engaging in sodomy what actions are to be judged?


31 posted on 10/14/2014 2:51:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: piusv
Trial balloons, my friends, trial balloons.

Statement of intent produced by the Pope's handpicked drafting committee.

32 posted on 10/14/2014 3:05:56 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: NKP_Vet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvhYqeGp_Do


33 posted on 10/14/2014 3:10:02 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: Alex Murphy
When is an interim report not an interim report? When CNN reports on it

But probably only if they agree with it.

34 posted on 10/14/2014 3:12:58 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Tax-chick

“When the dust settles, I’m afraid very little will have come of all this.”

Wait. Isn’t that what we want? :)


35 posted on 10/14/2014 3:14:52 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Then what ARE you trying to say?”

Technically they haven’t said anything yet. Calm down. The Church moves in centuries not days.


36 posted on 10/14/2014 3:16:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NKP_Vet; All
"If they are living a chaste lifestyle and not engaging in sodomy what actions are to be judged?"

Matthew 5:28 tells us that Jesus taught that if you even think of doing something sinful then you are guilty of the sin.

37 posted on 10/14/2014 3:20:42 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Then go ahead and condemn everyone. Because no one is perfect. That’s why Catholics have confession.


38 posted on 10/14/2014 3:25:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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"Then go ahead and condemn everyone."

Aren't you glad that God wants everybody to repent, even though some will not do so?

39 posted on 10/14/2014 3:36:58 PM PDT by Amendment10
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"Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities?

Sounds like "love the sinner, hate the sin".

40 posted on 10/14/2014 4:00:28 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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