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Vatican proposes 'stunning' shift on gays, lesbians
CNN ^ | Oct 13, 2014 | Delia Gallagher,

Posted on 10/13/2014 10:31:21 AM PDT by Innovative

ROME (CNN) – Using strikingly open language, a new Vatican report says the church should welcome and appreciate gays, and offers a solution for divorced and remarried Catholics who want to receive Communion.

“Regarding homosexuals, it went so far as to pose the question whether the church could accept and value their sexual orientation without compromising Catholic doctrine,” said John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service.

The Rev. James Martin, an author and Jesuit priest, called the report's language on gays and lesbians "revolutionary."

“Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bible; catholic; catholicchurch; eschatology; homosexualagenda; pope; synod; vatican
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I tend to not post and stay away from religious threads, but can't believe this news has not been posted, so here it is...

They not only want to "accept" it, but "VALUE their sexual orientation"....!!

1 posted on 10/13/2014 10:31:21 AM PDT by Innovative
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I have always respected the Catholic Church and its adherence to God’s Word, but if this is true, then I’m glad this day I am not a Catholic. I feel for any member who have just had the world rocked.


2 posted on 10/13/2014 10:33:47 AM PDT by punknpuss
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Valuing a person is radically different from valuing the perversion they are struggling with. This is amazing.


3 posted on 10/13/2014 10:34:26 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Innovative

not sure where this is in the “tradition” catholics claim to have to guide them.


4 posted on 10/13/2014 10:35:00 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Innovative

Catholics have gone insane.


5 posted on 10/13/2014 10:37:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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Gay Priests have been such a wonderful gift to the church..how can they deny them now?
6 posted on 10/13/2014 10:38:08 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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"valuing their sexual orientation"

A big.... WOW!

7 posted on 10/13/2014 10:38:28 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: ealgeone

Nowhere


8 posted on 10/13/2014 10:38:40 AM PDT by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Innovative

So are they saying that homosexual behavior is no longer sinful???


9 posted on 10/13/2014 10:38:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service.

This is CNN !
Thavis is a journalist. And it sounds like he opposes the proposal.


10 posted on 10/13/2014 10:39:01 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: Innovative

In other news, the Pope nominates The Prophet Mohammed for sainthood. Film at 11.


11 posted on 10/13/2014 10:39:16 AM PDT by rbg81
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And before it came out Humanae Vitae was going to allow Catholics to use contraception. Except it didn’t. Probably what is going on is that the dissenters are getting their talking points out so the can ignore what actually comes out of the synod. (Which may be nothing. The Pope doesn’t have to issue any binding proclamation, unless he wants to.


12 posted on 10/13/2014 10:40:37 AM PDT by rmichaelj
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CNN...could be optimistic hyperventilating. I’ll wait for the document.

If the Church, even through pastoral guile or linguistic gymnastics, promotes the sentiment of the article you post - there will be schism.


13 posted on 10/13/2014 10:40:39 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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I’ve never understood how it is, that the large number of child abuse cases involving homosexual priests never became a bad reflection upon the gay community.


14 posted on 10/13/2014 10:40:59 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Innovative

As a Catholic I am deeply saddened by the Synod. I can’t expound further.


15 posted on 10/13/2014 10:41:00 AM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Laz would hit it.)
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I found this FReeper thread yesterday going back to 2002. Very interesting. I wonder if the will be the great ‘falling away’?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/722955/posts


16 posted on 10/13/2014 10:42:05 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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The Catholic Church won’t rid themselves of the Kennedys or Nancy Pelosi, why shouldn’t they welcome homosexuals if it is so willing to accept wealthy apostates to church doctrine?


17 posted on 10/13/2014 10:42:50 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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a new Vatican report says the church should welcome and appreciate gays

I thought it was that Synod's mid-term report

18 posted on 10/13/2014 10:42:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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“accepting and valuing their sexual orientation”

Homosexuality is an abomination. No moral person can accept it or value it. No moral person can promote it to vulnerable young people and tell them that they should accept and value homosexual sex.

19 posted on 10/13/2014 10:43:32 AM PDT by detective
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Here’s what coming......

FIRST ‘openly gay’ priest!

Then he’ll say....

“IF gays can receive the Sacrament of Communion why can’t they receive the Sacrament of Matrimony”.

The ‘slippery slope’ has begun.


20 posted on 10/13/2014 10:44:36 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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