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To: daniel1212
What? Over 1,000 words of Scripture does not tell me what you understand all this to support.

Well if you don't like my Scriptures, you probably will not like these verses either, as certain also of your own poets have said

So are you answering yes, that an assured infallible magisterium is essential for the conveyance, determination, assurance and preservation of Truth, and that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation means that such possesses assured infallibility?

It sees to me you are articulate, intelligent, with an astute, agile, and facile command of the Scriptures and Biblical languages. If you are wholly convinced the Catholic Church is erroneous, and the Eastern Orthodox as well, why not be an advocate for an Independent Fundamental Baptist remnant that is the direct descendant of genuine apostolic New Testament churches ? And if not, will you in a sentence name which denomination(s) you deem acceptably authentic New Testament churches ? Is there a kosher alternative to publicly confessing Jesus is LORD and Messiah tomorrow in a local Catholic Church (assembly) ?

2,280 posted on 10/18/2014 3:21:20 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
It sees to me you are articulate, intelligent, with an astute, agile, and facile command of the Scriptures and Biblical languages.

So are your leaders...

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2,288 posted on 10/18/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Well if you don't like my Scriptures, you probably will not like these verses either

Your refusal to give a straightforward answer testifies to avoidance, or that your cannot answer them, and thus you have no argument. Again,

the question of definition must be asked, which is upon what basis was the original holy, catholic, apostolic church established? On the premise that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such possesses assured infallibility, as Rome claims?

And that this is essential for the conveyance, determination, assurance and preservation of Truth, and with authenticity being assured by historical descent?

It sees to me you are articulate, intelligent, with an astute, agile, and facile command of the Scriptures and Biblical languages. If you are wholly convinced the Catholic Church is erroneous, and the Eastern Orthodox as well, why not be an advocate for an Independent Fundamental Baptist remnant that is the direct descendant of genuine apostolic New Testament churches ? And if not, will you in a sentence name which denomination(s) you deem acceptably authentic New Testament churches ? Is there a kosher alternative to publicly confessing Jesus is LORD and Messiah tomorrow in a local Catholic Church (assembly) ?

You questioning is all based upon a fundamental issue of determination of Truth and authenticity, as were the questions asked of Christ by the powers that be on this issue, and thus like as with them, it is you which must clearly answer the questions put to you, rather than avoiding them.

2,298 posted on 10/18/2014 3:58:26 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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