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To: Elsie
The Bible:  "...your Father knows what you need before you ask him." Matthew 6:8

Elsie:  "But it REALLY helps if MARY knows, too!"

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It sure does help Elsie.

Do you believe it is helpful for FReepers to pray intercessory prayers for other FReepers, when someone posts a prayer request here, even though God already is fully aware of the situation?

In the Bible, the Holy Spirit has inspired many texts which plainly exhort us to pray for other people (including numerous quotations of Jesus Christ), so God definitely wants humans to pray for one another, even though God always already fully knows every single situation that every person is ever in at all times, and God already knows every single word that will be said in every single prayer ever prayed.

God also plainly tells us in His Bible that "the prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects", and no mere human being is more righteous than the Blessed Mother Mary, so it is a great idea to ask Mary to pray for you, just like it is a good idea to ask other FReepers to pray for you when you feel in need of special prayers, even though God already knows everything they are going to say.

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The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects.    James 5:16b

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It is a good idea to never forget that.
1,138 posted on 10/12/2014 2:37:54 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest
from you post #1138 God also plainly tells us in His Bible that "the prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects", and no mere human being is more righteous than the Blessed Mother Mary, so it is a great idea to ask Mary to pray for you, just like it is a good idea to ask other FReepers to pray for you when you feel in need of special prayers, even though God already knows everything they are going to say.

For starters you've assigned a false title to Mary. No where does the Bible refer to her in this manner.

Next, we have no record in the NT of anyone ever praying to those who have gone to be with the Lord.

This is nothing more than the false teaching of mary fostered by the roman catholic cult.

1,148 posted on 10/12/2014 3:21:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Heart-Rest

Please show an instance from scripture of praying to or asking anyone to pray that has passed from this life.


1,185 posted on 10/12/2014 5:08:42 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Heart-Rest
In the Bible, the Holy Spirit has inspired many texts which plainly exhort us to pray for other people (including numerous quotations of Jesus Christ), so God definitely wants humans to pray for one another, even though God always already fully knows every single situation that every person is ever in at all times, and God already knows every single word that will be said in every single prayer ever prayed.

GOD has NOT said that DEAD Humans should be prayed to.

And Mary is surely dead.


The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects. James 5:16b

Surely this is true.

It does not, however, indicate TO WHOM these prayers are directed.

If I 'pray' to my dead Gramma for help; it will do absolutely NO good.

Likewise any prayers TO Mary.

1,290 posted on 10/13/2014 4:45:53 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Heart-Rest
I'm aware that I'll probably never convince you that Mary is dead; and I can tell you that you'll not convince me that she is alive.

I can only pray (to GOD) that your extra belief in this matter will not affect your relationship with him.

You can pray (to Mary) that my lack of respect for your chosen religion's teachings about her will not affect my relationship with GOD.

1,291 posted on 10/13/2014 4:51:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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