Why would anyone become Catholic?

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[Elsie]

How DARE you point out Cherry picking!!

[Elsie]

Acts 19:12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

You guys CONTINUALLY want to take ONE example and then try to apply it across the board!

[CynicalBear]

It's the Catholic Church that is the only one who declares itself infallible. I'm not a part of that pagan organization. I consider scripture as the infallibly inspired word of God.

[Elsie]

You should!

They are at least 90% accurate!

[Elsie]

The monks of the Cistercian abbey at Fossanova, where Thomas was buried, feared that the remains might be stolen and taken off to a Dominican resting place.

Unruliness among the faithful??

[Elsie]

These represent the actions of imperfect yet pious, zealous Catholics of a different era.

That 'poor catechism' will bite you every time!

[CynicalBear]

>>This authority includes interpreting and applying the Word of God and admitting people to and excommunicating them from the community of faith.<<

Kennedy, Palosi, diddling priests. Yep!

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

I’m amazed at the SILENCE when Catholics are asked, begged and pleaded with to PLEASE show us just what TRADITIONS they have that are NEEDED for Salvation.

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There’s that claim that praying the rosary to Mary will get you time off out of purgatory for good behavior so they’ve got that going for them.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

(Anyone notice that TRADITION was NOT mentioned?)

You're right.

OTOH, Scripture is not mentioned here:

"Go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and teaching them everything I have commanded you. Behold, I am with you even to the end of the age." --Jesus

Or here:

"Listen to the church... If he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

So can we then dismiss the value of Scripture?

Catholics uphold the teaching authority of the Church, as Jesus commands, the inspired nature of Scripture, and the value of oral tradition as mentioned by St. Paul.

Protestants follow Luther's tradition of "the Bible ALONE as the sole rule of faith," which, ironically, is not found in Scripture.

No, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 does not even come close to saying that Scripture is the SOLE rule of faith. Anyone who believes that is reading Luther's tradition into Scripture.

[Elsie]

Ever been in a grocery store when a little brat is screaming and carryin’ on for attention?

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

You got a “Fractal” so they’ve got no actual response to what you posted...

[Elsie]

This singling out of Peter to bestow on him an authority which is later to be given to all the apostles

Please show us when this LATER thing occurred.

Can you?

[CynicalBear]

Please show an infallible source proving that the traditions of today’s Catholic Church are the same traditions taught by the apostles.

[Elsie]

"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector" --Jesus

Haven't you been corrected before about taking this verse out of context?

A rebuke comes next...

 

 

Matthew 18:15-17

 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

 

¹⁵ But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

¹⁶ And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.

¹⁷ And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.

[Elsie]

"Listen to the church... If he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

[Elsie]

No, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 does not even come close to saying that Scripture is the SOLE rule of faith. Anyone who believes that is reading Luther's tradition into Scripture.

Please; Tom.

Enlighten we blind folks as to what TRADITIONS are NEEDED in addition to what the Bible (Thanks Catholic Church!) has already plainly stated.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That’s also Eastern Catholic terminology. You know, Greek...

[CynicalBear]

>>If he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus<<

Interesting that it's the Catholic Church that admits it incorporates pagan practices isn't it?

[MamaB]

I know he is an author but I was reading a western by Willam W.Johnstone and one of his Last Mountain Man books. I really enjoy them on my iPad. He was one of the best writers around. He died in 2004. He also wrote the Out of the Ashes series among others. If you have not read any, do so. J.A. took over when Bill died. There is a new book out, Stand your Ground. Very interesting.

[Resettozero]

Haven't you been corrected before about taking this verse out of context?

Use of this phrase in this manner is akin to lying. Yes, he was informed but still doesn't believe.