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Are You a Bad Person if You Give to the Homeless?
Pajamas Media ^ | 10/08/2014 | Robert Wargas

Posted on 10/08/2014 8:45:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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A few weeks ago, I was in New York City to meet someone for drinks, and got on the subway at 34th and 7th to head downtown. I dislike the New York subway for many reasons. It is the only such system in a major Western city to look as if it had been swapped with the metro of a third-world backwater. Pick any otherwise dodgy country on Earth, and chances are the subway of its capital city is a gleaming tube with smooth rolling stock and palatial stations. Not New York. The trains lurch between filthy platforms like winos stumbling to and from tenement doorsteps.

It is also a place in which I am continually confronted with the human condition. Sometimes it takes the form of rudeness; other times, drunkenness. On this particular day, it was poverty. Immediately after the doors closed, a disheveled man entered the car at the far end, battered cap in hand, and made the following announcement to us passengers:

“Ladies and gentlemen, if I could have your attention for one moment, please,” he said loudly. “I don’t want to bother you, but I am a homeless veteran. If you could spare some money, I would greatly appreciate it.”

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I could tell it was an announcement he had given many times before. His voice ran through the words with a practiced clarity. There was a mechanical quality to it, like a reluctant student reading aloud from a textbook. He shuffled through the car, holding his balance amid the train’s jolts, extending his red baseball cap for any who might spare him the change from their lattes. No one did. The passengers instead did what all people do in awkward situations: they looked down. Nowadays, the cell phone provides a convenient excuse to do so: the riders of the 7th Avenue local on that beautiful September afternoon busied themselves with their thumb-gymnastics.

The man had asked for money in a public place, only to discover (again, in front of others) that no one would give him any. Is this not a perfect example of shame? By the time he reached me, I had surreptitiously pulled some cash from my pocket, and stuffed a five-dollar bill into his cap as he passed.

I did this as much in anger as in sorrow. Here I was, in the center of New York City, where with each visit one is marinated in “progressivism.” And yet when it came time to put theory into practice, the bleeding hearts could not even muster a farthing. I had felt this before, this same bewilderment. Touring the streets of Vienna one autumn, I spotted a homeless man. I put some money in his cup. The good little European social democrats walking the street that day had given him nothing. What was I to think of all those times I had been told that cosmopolitan Europeans love The People, while Americans are all stingy capitalists?

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Standing there in the subway car, I nearly announced my displeasure to the other passengers. But I stayed quiet. I was content to feel content with myself, and I must admit I carried this bit of self-righteousness in my heart for several hours. I felt I had done something good, and perhaps I had. But a few hours later, as I waited to cross the street near Union Square, another homeless man approached me, asking for money. I turned him away brusquely, using the feeble and predictable excuse that I had no money.

Of course, this was a lie. I had money. I could have given him some. I didn’t. What could explain my sudden callousness? It took me another block or two to figure it out: I don’t live or work in an area with homeless people. Confrontations with paupers are not a regular part of my day. Even though I’m a regular visitor to Manhattan (“the city,” to us Long Island natives), its poverty is not something I am forced to see in my normal life. There are, according to some estimates, around 50,000 homeless people in New York City; the number has risen considerably over the last few years. Manhattan is the New York borough afflicted with the most homelessness. If one lives or works there, and thus rides the subways and walks the streets daily, one is bound to encounter panhandling as a matter of routine. The jading effect of this must be quick. After all, it had only taken two such encounters to drive me to cold indifference.

So here I am, standing on the corner of 14th and 4th, questioning my morality. I had already acquired the grudging cynicism of the subway passengers I nearly cursed a few hours earlier. It was one of those moments when you realize you just might be a fraud.

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I spent the rest of the day questioning my morality—even my deed on the train. For instance, I confessed to myself that the major reason I had given to the subway pauper was that he was (or said he was) a military veteran. Are veterans inherently more deserving of charity than non-veterans? Do I only give money to homeless vets, rather than to homeless people in general? (The second homeless man was not a vet, and I also had to confess this was a reason I had not given him anything.) If so, does that make me a better or worse person than someone who is at least fair and consistent in refusing to give any alms? And does giving money to the homeless only enable the more or less inevitable boozing and drugging in which most of them participate?

Such dilemmas tinge even the smallest moral decisions of our lives. Each of us likes to imagine that he lives by a discernible set of moral principles. But there are precious few things about which we can be morally certain. It is quite clear, for instance, that torturing and murdering an innocent person is immoral, and so most people, even the majority of repugnant ones, don’t do it. Excepting such extremes, however, moral choices are much more difficult than running down one’s list of “principles,” finding the applicable rule, and applying it with mathematical certainty. Reality always resists your ideal vision of the world and of yourself.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: charity; giving; homeless; morality
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To: Gamecock

Ft. Polk, I only remember one drill sergeants name of all of them.


21 posted on 10/08/2014 9:30:47 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Salvation

In Orlando a few weeks ago, I’m headed into a Winn Dixie on Orange Blossom and a guy hits me up for money. I asked him if he was hungry, he said yes. I bought some food, left the store and handed him the bag. He was very grateful, thanking me. As I drove away, I saw him go back into the store with the bag. I didn’t know you could return groceries.

Actually, I’ve bought food for people several times but I’ve never witnessed them eating it.


22 posted on 10/08/2014 9:33:31 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hope not because last week I saw a guy in his 60’s with an Army hat on that was so pathetic looking I gave him a wad of cash from my pocket. Probably about 30 bucks. And no I am not naïve enough to be convinced that we served in the same Army or that he would not get drunk again that night. But there was just something about the guy....


23 posted on 10/08/2014 9:36:11 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ryan71

I think I would have gone back into the store to see what he did with the food.


24 posted on 10/08/2014 9:37:35 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SeekAndFind

Never ever give money,you can feed them,get them some clothes or donate to a homeless charity.


25 posted on 10/08/2014 9:43:36 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: thefactor
1) The vast majority of beggers are lying.

I've found that true in most instances.

Two times I was approached by people (this was two different cities, in two different states) asking for gas money.

The first time, I was close to a station, and had to fuel up anyway, so I offered to put $10-worth in their tank (at the time, fuel was under $1.50/gallon) so they could get back to the neighboring city. They hemmed and hawed, then finally agreed when I told them I didn't carry cash. When I put the gas in their car, the nozzle clicked off at about 3 gallons. They sheepishly tried to claim the gauge didn't work, but I knew they only wanted beer money.

The second time, I told the person to follow me in my car to the gas station across the street, and I'd give her enough to get somewhere else. Same thing. She pulled out, was right behind me, and then went straight as I pulled into the gas station.

26 posted on 10/08/2014 9:49:20 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I worked as a firefighter for twenty five years for a city with a reputation for having the most crime and social problems in the state. Many of those in my crews were veterans and any time we came across someone who was begging and claiming to be a veteran we almost always checked it out. We had many contacts with resources to help veterans. Unfortunately, during my entire career working as a firefighter my crews and I never met one person who was begging and claiming to be a vet who actually was a veteran. Up until about ten years ago most were claiming to be Vietnam vets a vast majority of whom were not even born or were still in grade school in March of 1973 when the last US Combat troops pulled out.

My experience is not unique. I was talking to a man who runs a non-profit that helps actual veterans with substance abuse problems by giving them jobs and a place to stay while they go through a counseling program. He said that in the twenty years that he had been working at it... he had also not met one person begging who claimed to be a veteran who actually was a vet.

There are many programs and resources available to help veterans with psychological or substance abuse problems. If someone wants to help homeless veterans... the best thing that they can do is familiarize themselves with what resources are available in their community and if they come across someone who is having difficulty... try to help them make contact.

What you will most likely find is that the person you are concerned about is a scam artist who is not a veteran. Also the person most likely wants only your money and has no interest in making any changes to their current lifestyle. This is strictly the voice of experience speaking and not the way that I want it or wish it to be. As a Christian I think that it is our calling to help those less fortunate than ourselves. But we should also try to make sure that our “help” is not perpetuating negative lifestyle choices.


27 posted on 10/08/2014 9:56:40 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It is the only such system in a major Western city to look as if it had been swapped with the metro of a third-world backwater. Pick any otherwise dodgy country on Earth, and chances are the subway of its capital city is a gleaming tube with smooth rolling stock and palatial stations. Not New York.

IIRC there was a time when New York subway cars were all entirely covered with graffiti and amazingly this problem was solved. BTW New York is not a capital city.

28 posted on 10/08/2014 9:58:29 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: SeekAndFind

I walk to work in Richmond, VA everyday. There are a number of corners that have our professional beggars with their cardboard I’m a homeless Vet and God Bless signs. I see the same cadre of beggars and noticed that they rotated corners. They never seem to pile up on any given corner and then I discovered that they actually have a scheduler. One day the scheduler was on the corner (with HIS cardboard) and another beggar walked up and he said where where you? and other less kind things. Finally he left the replacement beggar to the corner and walked off. I see them with coffee and lunch purchased at the local convience mart. I also saw someone had one his lunch (from his car window) and as soon as he drove away the “beggar” walked to the sewer and tossed it down. Never even looked inside. Do I give to beggars? sorry, no I don’t. My church does in the form of a soup kitchen and handing out clothes and even helping with paying for prescriptions, But I don’t hand money to the street corner beggar. But, that’s me.


29 posted on 10/08/2014 10:03:02 AM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Salvation

#8 Expose the frauds.


30 posted on 10/08/2014 10:07:01 AM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t hand money to beggars, it encourages them.


31 posted on 10/08/2014 10:08:30 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here in Europe, many homeless on the street have dogs.


32 posted on 10/08/2014 10:15:42 AM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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To: thefactor
3) Most of those who say they served, didn't.

Recently I have seen a guy with sign identifying himself as a disabled "vetaran". You would think a genuine veteran would have seen the word so many times that they would get it right, but maybe not.

33 posted on 10/08/2014 10:19:06 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: fireman15
When I got out and went back to School I did a stint as an alcohol and drug abuse consular for VN Vets.

I did two tours and all of my buds served in the Nam, I waded into a swamp of frauds, wannabes and bull shitters.

34 posted on 10/08/2014 10:23:27 AM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: SeekAndFind

About 2/3 of homeless are alcoholics, drug addicts and/or mentally ill.

I ask them if they have an addiction issue? Depending on the answer, I invite them to an AA meeting.

I also ask them if they have a service related disability (which gives them monthly income)?

I was listening to a doctor on an addiction segment on TV. The doctor said he interviews patients, to determine if they are indeed alcoholics/addicts? If they lie, that reinforces the diagnosis.

Drug addicts and alcoholics are great manipulators. The “homeless vet” bit is one such routine.


35 posted on 10/08/2014 10:44:18 AM PDT by truth_seeker (oMercedes, BMWs, Audis,)
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To: dfwgator
I rarely even carry cash these days, problem solved.

Thanks to Apple iPay you can now give by just bumping your iPhone to their iPhone! No cash needed! Ain't technology great? :-)

36 posted on 10/08/2014 12:46:22 PM PDT by Moltke ("The Press, Watson, is a most valuable institution if you only know how to use it.")
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To: ryan71
In Orlando a few weeks ago, I’m headed into a Winn Dixie on Orange Blossom and a guy hits me up for money. I asked him if he was hungry, he said yes. I bought some food, left the store and handed him the bag. He was very grateful, thanking me. As I drove away, I saw him go back into the store with the bag. I didn’t know you could return groceries.

Actually, I’ve bought food for people several times but I’ve never witnessed them eating it.

In Orlando, on Colonial Drive around 1988-89 or so in my pre-cell phone days, I have to stop at a convenience store to make a call at the bank of pay phones that were outside the store.

Guy approaches asking for money as he was hungry and had just been released from jail the day before (points for honesty). I told him to follow me into the store, where I told him to pick out what he wanted to eat (from the ready-to-eat hot area). He had a tear roll down his face as he thanked me.

Fast-forward to 2014...so many scams in my little corner of GreenAcres that we see the same people hustling high traffic areas and parking lots all the time.

37 posted on 10/08/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: SeekAndFind
Heard that guy many times. His spiel goes something like:

"Sorry to bother anyone. I don't dance. I don't play the bongos. I'm a homeless veteran. I guess that doesn't mean much anymore. But if I were to do back flips maybe I'd get your attention . . . especially at my age that'd be miracle. But I did my time. So, if you could help out I would appreciate it. No. No song or dance from me. Again, sorry to bother anyone."

I've refused to give to that guy due to his tone. He shames his audience and knocks the performers in the subway who are providing entertainment, even if it's unwanted. No need for that. He should work on his pitch and stop berating his potential benefactors. Again, sorry to bother anyone.

38 posted on 10/08/2014 1:33:13 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: SeekAndFind
I've walked the streets of Harlem after midnight, Brooklyn very late, to the subway I might add.
Worn my yarmulke to a Black Church in Harlem, who is this girl?

Tzedakah (charity) delivers from death” Mishlei 10:2 I'm proof!

Fruit bearing trees are not cut down in time of war... Deuteronomy 20:19

Give, or choose your Ebola (strain)

39 posted on 10/08/2014 2:01:00 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaI)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sure. They're all homeless vets.

I knew a man once who had been through Teen Challenge for alcohol and drug rehabilitation, and he told me once to NEVER give any money to the guys begging for it.

He told me that he knew them from the Rescue mission and they have that option. He knew they were drug addicts and alcoholics and that's the only thing they'd be using their money for.

No one is turned away from the Rescue Mission. The reason those guys don't avail themselves of it is because there is accountability and they don't want it.

And he also told me to NEVER feel guilty for not giving them the money.

Hearing it from someone like that was enough for me.

I give my money to the Rescue Mission. If those *homeless* people need food and shelter, they can find it there, like many others who have gone before them. It's there if they really want and really want to try. They don't.

FWIW, this man had turned his life around out of the drugs and alcohol, had a steady, full time job and was supporting a wonderful family.

40 posted on 10/08/2014 5:12:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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