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To: ifinnegan; boatbums
I never said Catholics think Mary is God.

I never said you did, but you have been on this site long enough to see other non/anti-Catholics say that.

I have never seen you engage in fraternal correction either.

So I stated an absolute truth to you: Catholics do not believe that Mary is divine in any way, shape, or form nor do we worship her as divine. I then asked you a simple question that can be answered with either a yes or a no.

So do Catholics think that Mary is divine and do we worship her as a divine being.

Simple yes or no.

97 posted on 10/04/2014 11:48:13 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga; ifinnegan; boatbums
>>So do Catholics think that Mary is divine and do we worship her as a divine being.<<

Should we determine by their actions or by their words?

109 posted on 10/04/2014 2:55:06 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; ifinnegan
I have never seen you engage in fraternal correction either.

Oddly enough, I've never seen you so either.

Do some Catholics think Mary is divine and worship her as a divine being? A simple yes or no answer, right?

110 posted on 10/04/2014 3:17:25 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: verga

>> “Catholics do not believe that Mary is divine in any way, shape, or form nor do we worship her as divine” <<

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Apparently you have never visited Santa Barbara, California?

They call her the “Co-Redeemer” down there.
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134 posted on 10/04/2014 4:28:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: verga; ifinnegan; boatbums
So I stated an absolute truth to you: Catholics do not believe that Mary is divine in any way, shape, or form nor do we worship her as divine. I then asked you a simple question that can be answered with either a yes or a no.

ON the contrary, Catholics believe that Mary can save them and the CCC itself gives Mary the titles of God, so yes, the church does teach that she is divine because they attribute to her attributes of divinity.

Nor can you state that as an absolute truth, because you would have of necessity, needed to interview every single Catholic who ever lived to find out that NO Catholics ever worshiped her as divine.

From the Catechism of the Catholic church....

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm

969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”510

Names of God from the Bible. Compare them to the names given to Mary in the above prayer.

Jesus

Hope (our) - 1 Timothy 1:1

Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

Advocate - 1 John 2:1

Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 9:15, Hebrews 12:24

Holy Spirit

Comforter - John 14:26

Helper – John 14:16

This is worship of Mary if ever there was.....Attributing to her the attributes of God is idolatry.

166 posted on 10/04/2014 5:14:04 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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