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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

Holy Bible graphic

“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians

A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. “I don’t understand the deuterocanonical books,” she ventured. “If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews don’t?” She’d done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptures—which is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a “second” (deutero) canon.

My student went on. “I’m just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they aren’t considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out?” she asked. “And why are Protestants so against them?”

The short answer sounds petty and mean, but it’s true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those “extra” Old Testament books—Tobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the like—because they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, “false writings”), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppress—praying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Here’s John Calvin on the subject:

Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?

However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldn’t very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven “apocryphal” books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.

Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today don’t even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luther’s case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for “adding” phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.

In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.

The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic books—case closed! Still unconvinced? Today’s defenders of the reformers’ biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but it’s all really smoke and mirrors.

The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagint—the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luther’s rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon – 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism – 0.

But this is all beside the point. It’s like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs could’ve been on board Noah’s Ark. Once you’re arguing about that, you’re no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how it’s supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.

I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we don’t have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Church’s teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches “solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings” (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.

Can there be any doubt that this is by God’s design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, it’s true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Word—and we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:

The Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.”

Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldn’t have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:

Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.

Right. The Church says so, and that’s good enough.

For it’s the Church who gives us the Scriptures. It’s the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. It’s the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with God’s Word. Isn’t it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures she’s feeding us with? “No, mother,” the infant cries, “not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!”

Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smith’s remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. It’s a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smith’s epic story receives so little attention.

I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name “Betty Smith” on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.

The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. “It wasn’t nearly as good as Tree,” she said, “and I don’t expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.”

See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.

But Jesus isn’t like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: editor-surveyor

I pray that one day you will know the personal relationship with Jesus by whose death and ressurection salvation was offered to ALL mankind.


781 posted on 10/07/2014 5:42:51 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus in)
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To: rwilson99

This is relevant somehow?


782 posted on 10/07/2014 5:43:06 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwilson99
As John the Baptist, Elizabeth and the Servants at Cana certainly did.

Certainly??

You need no bible at all; do you!

783 posted on 10/07/2014 5:43:58 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwilson99
And I point out this again to share that Mary’s ‘yes’ was in many ways the antithesis to Eve’s ‘no.’

List the ways; please.

784 posted on 10/07/2014 5:44:36 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
And, why was the Septuagint and later the entire New Testament written in Greek?

And the Gideons' bibles use KJV English; too; although there are 89 other languages they are printed in as well.

785 posted on 10/07/2014 5:48:00 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
That’s all I need to know on the subject.

No 'traditions'?

786 posted on 10/07/2014 5:48:46 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
The Holy Ghost inspired all Scripture and all its translations, except of course the Protestant mistranslations and obfuscations.

Got a list of these?

(It helps to see if a person is just slandering unknown folks or if they really have some data to back their accusations up.)

787 posted on 10/07/2014 5:50:24 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

I agree. That along with the obvious faith they had one would think they felt secure.


788 posted on 10/07/2014 5:51:12 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus in)
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To: metmom
Now, I have to believe that Mary was thrilled to be chosen to be the mother of the Messiah. No doubt that would be the dream of any Jewish virgin girl, so of course she would have *accepted* the assignment.


First Jewish mother: OH; my son is so smart; he is a doctor.

Second Jewish mother: But my son is so wise; he is an appellate judge.

Third Jewish mother: My son is the Son of GOD.

789 posted on 10/07/2014 5:55:05 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon

You got the Good Number...


790 posted on 10/07/2014 5:56:42 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

You got the Bad Number...


791 posted on 10/07/2014 5:57:17 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Springfield Reformer

They are not dead.

John 3:16


792 posted on 10/07/2014 6:02:56 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: metmom

That denies our free will... Would you apply the same standard to Eve?


793 posted on 10/07/2014 6:05:38 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: CynicalBear

So when the angel Gabriel says ‘do not be afraid’ that was just redundant?


794 posted on 10/07/2014 6:07:19 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: BlueDragon
Here we go, from Fr. Charles Erlandson;
Roger Beckwith's "The Old Testament Canon of the New Testament Church" is a magisterial work on the issue he pursues. He has a masterful command of the material at hand and along the way provides the reader with an education in the fallacies of other works dealing with this issue; witnesses to the Canon; the facts of the Canon; the structure of the Canon; and the identity of the Canon. It's not an easy read, but if you're interested in issues related to how we got the Bible, the Canon, the Apocrypha, and the early Church's use of the Old Testament, then this is an important work that should be consulted. Canonical studies are making a comeback, and so revisiting Beckwith's work is a very worthwhile pursuit

The very idea. That priest has been summarily excommunicated by the extraordinary Internet magisterium for daring to affirm the work of a scholar who taught something that impugns a Catholic belief, following the command "exterminate the heretics!"

795 posted on 10/07/2014 6:07:23 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; NYer; Alex Murphy
Thanks dan.

The OP of this thread has been disproven.

NYer ---

why continue to bring this same sort of half-baked nonsense to FR?

About the only good it does is to possibly allow those not otherwise exposed to issues of formation of canon (of Scripture) to be better able to make determinations as to the matters...and in the end, expose claims made by the RCC as to it's own magesterial infallibility to be ridiculous...

Is that your aim? Are you Alex Murphy in disguise?

Do you read the replies, follow the conversations, go to the sources as those arise, weigh the evidences, etc.?

These kind of threads can be like a stick in the eye.

Why do you persist in this sort of thing (such as posting threads like this)?

It always stirs up animosities...

You've been at it for years now. LITERALLY -- years.

In the end it only discredits & makes the RCC look bad. Which is a SHAME, for not all there is bad. Not at all.

796 posted on 10/07/2014 6:08:33 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...they murdered some of them bums...for thinking wrong thoughts)
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To: redleghunter

Ok... So you would only recognize the Torah.

So Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Jeremiah... Etc. Rip all that out too?


797 posted on 10/07/2014 6:11:34 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Elsie
I saw that.

When it came up yesterday while perusing comments (in religion forum designation), right above it a comment from another thread mentioned something about not being superstitious.

Had to smile.

798 posted on 10/07/2014 6:14:08 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...they murdered some of them bums...for thinking wrong thoughts)
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To: annalex

One only needs to compare the Greek text of Genesis 3:15 to the Douay-Rheims Bible to know that one is not from the Holy Spirit.


799 posted on 10/07/2014 6:16:04 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus in)
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To: Elsie

Eve’s ‘no’... Brought sin and death.

Mary’s ‘yes’ led to salvation and everlasting life.

And if Mary’s ‘yes’ isn’t a model to follow in regards to out accepting the reality of Jesus and his salvation... She was first among mere mortals.

Which takes us back to John 3:16

She believes... She is not dead.


800 posted on 10/07/2014 6:16:46 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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