Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”

Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

[CynicalBear]

I pray that one day you will know the personal relationship with Jesus by whose death and ressurection salvation was offered to ALL mankind.

[Elsie]

This is relevant somehow?

[Elsie]

As John the Baptist, Elizabeth and the Servants at Cana certainly did.

Certainly??

You need no bible at all; do you!

[Elsie]

And I point out this again to share that Mary’s ‘yes’ was in many ways the antithesis to Eve’s ‘no.’

List the ways; please.

[Elsie]

And, why was the Septuagint and later the entire New Testament written in Greek?

And the Gideons' bibles use KJV English; too; although there are 89 other languages they are printed in as well.

[Elsie]

That’s all I need to know on the subject.

No 'traditions'?

[Elsie]

The Holy Ghost inspired all Scripture and all its translations, except of course the Protestant mistranslations and obfuscations.

Got a list of these?

(It helps to see if a person is just slandering unknown folks or if they really have some data to back their accusations up.)

[CynicalBear]

I agree. That along with the obvious faith they had one would think they felt secure.

[Elsie]

Now, I have to believe that Mary was thrilled to be chosen to be the mother of the Messiah. No doubt that would be the dream of any Jewish virgin girl, so of course she would have *accepted* the assignment.

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First Jewish mother: OH; my son is so smart; he is a doctor.

Second Jewish mother: But my son is so wise; he is an appellate judge.

Third Jewish mother: My son is the Son of GOD.

[Elsie]

You got the Good Number...

[Elsie]

You got the Bad Number...

[rwilson99]

They are not dead.

John 3:16

[rwilson99]

That denies our free will... Would you apply the same standard to Eve?

[rwilson99]

So when the angel Gabriel says ‘do not be afraid’ that was just redundant?

[daniel1212]

Here we go, from Fr. Charles Erlandson;

Roger Beckwith's "The Old Testament Canon of the New Testament Church" is a magisterial work on the issue he pursues. He has a masterful command of the material at hand and along the way provides the reader with an education in the fallacies of other works dealing with this issue; witnesses to the Canon; the facts of the Canon; the structure of the Canon; and the identity of the Canon. It's not an easy read, but if you're interested in issues related to how we got the Bible, the Canon, the Apocrypha, and the early Church's use of the Old Testament, then this is an important work that should be consulted. Canonical studies are making a comeback, and so revisiting Beckwith's work is a very worthwhile pursuit

The very idea. That priest has been summarily excommunicated by the extraordinary Internet magisterium for daring to affirm the work of a scholar who taught something that impugns a Catholic belief, following the command "exterminate the heretics!"

[BlueDragon]

Thanks dan.

The OP of this thread has been disproven.

NYer ---

why continue to bring this same sort of half-baked nonsense to FR?

About the only good it does is to possibly allow those not otherwise exposed to issues of formation of canon (of Scripture) to be better able to make determinations as to the matters...and in the end, expose claims made by the RCC as to it's own magesterial infallibility to be ridiculous...

Is that your aim? Are you Alex Murphy in disguise?

Do you read the replies, follow the conversations, go to the sources as those arise, weigh the evidences, etc.?

These kind of threads can be like a stick in the eye.

Why do you persist in this sort of thing (such as posting threads like this)?

It always stirs up animosities...

You've been at it for years now. LITERALLY -- years.

In the end it only discredits & makes the RCC look bad. Which is a SHAME, for not all there is bad. Not at all.

[rwilson99]

Ok... So you would only recognize the Torah.

So Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Jeremiah... Etc. Rip all that out too?

[BlueDragon]

Bad Number...

I saw that.

When it came up yesterday while perusing comments (in religion forum designation), right above it a comment from another thread mentioned something about not being superstitious.

Had to smile.

[CynicalBear]

One only needs to compare the Greek text of Genesis 3:15 to the Douay-Rheims Bible to know that one is not from the Holy Spirit.

[rwilson99]

Eve’s ‘no’... Brought sin and death.

Mary’s ‘yes’ led to salvation and everlasting life.

And if Mary’s ‘yes’ isn’t a model to follow in regards to out accepting the reality of Jesus and his salvation... She was first among mere mortals.

Which takes us back to John 3:16

She believes... She is not dead.