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Jehovah’s Witness Convert
http://www.abouttherosary.com ^ | September 20, 2014 | Robbe Lyn Sebesta

Posted on 09/20/2014 8:16:26 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Lou Everett was one of Jehovah’s Witnesses for more than 14 years. During that time, he served as a full-time minister as well as other major roles within the congregation. Lou’s journey to the Catholic Church was truly a rough road traveled.

From Jehovah’s Witnesses to Catholicism: My Journey

In 2005, I find myself inside a Catholic church for midnight mass. My future wife, born and raised in the Catholic Church, by my side; silently showing me something that I never thought I’d see or feel. At the age of 31, a realization set in that I never would have expected to occur – thus begins another part of my journey to the Church, my home.

Peering back into my childhood, I realize that my journey actually began as a child. My father was in the military so our family traveled around quite a bit. I was born in San Francisco, California while my father was stationed there in the Army in 1974. Both of my parents are ‘cradle’ Catholics and had very different experiences with the Catholic Church. Throughout the various moves from place to place, my parents were contacted by Jehovah’s Witnesses. Their message seemed to touch my parents enough to eventually become baptized in 1984 as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

(Excerpt) Read more at abouttherosary.com ...


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To: caww
The plan of salvation also ‘includes’ those who acknowledge the Creator, in the ‘first place’ amongst whom are the Muslims;...... these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

Exactly...And would it be too much to assume that JWs and Mormons as well worship the same God as the muzlims and Catholics???

161 posted on 09/21/2014 9:24:06 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor

““Being able to take in the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ through the Eucharist” is pagan confusion.”

No. It is simply true.

“The eucharist is the vilest abomination on Earth.”

Christ is not a vile abomination and the Eucharist is His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.


162 posted on 09/21/2014 9:36:42 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
the Eucharist is His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.

Just like the bible says.

163 posted on 09/21/2014 9:42:49 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: imardmd1
Jesus' Body of Believers is not His mother. You need to go bsck and unlearn the misuse of metaphors in forming Scriptural doctrine. Try a valid hermeneutic, and you will do better. And quit giving me this "nyah, nyah" stuff. It doesn't improve your public image. A merry heart forth good like a medicine.

Captain Hook: [yells after Peter who is leaving with Jack, Maggie, and the Lost Boys] Peter! Where are you going? Come back here and fight me! Or I'll find you wherever you are, you hear me? Bad form, Peter, come back!

Maggie: You need a mother very, very badly!


164 posted on 09/21/2014 9:46:58 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: caww; Salvation
I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

It should be noted that your pope did not preach THIS message:

2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2Co 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

And in view of that, your pope did and is doing just the opposite from what we are told to do by God thru the apostle Paul:

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

And again:

Rev_18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

God teaches 'against' inter-religious dialog...Christians are to have no part in it...

165 posted on 09/21/2014 9:49:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: LurkingSince'98
Christ said, unless you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink Bis Blood you will not have life in you.

May you could explain how you protestants obey that very direct command of Christ.

I fulfill that command by 'drinking' in and consuming everything I can into my soul and spirit that God has revealed to us thru the scriptures...

Act_11:14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.

Not just a few words taken out of context and mis-understood, but all the words...

166 posted on 09/21/2014 9:56:17 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: LurkingSince'98
For Christ there is no time, as He experiences everything in the perpetual NOW.

Where do you get this information??? And don't say it's from the bible because it's not there...

So Jesus Christ birth is today??? Or should we pretend that Jesus hasn't been born yet???

If Jesus is being crucified right now in any and every Catholic church in the world, then Moses is crossing the Red Sea today...

167 posted on 09/21/2014 10:02:47 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: GeronL
Wow. He worships the Mass instead of going to mass to worship the lord? It is the mass that fulfils him? We are never outside of God and his holy spirit. The presence does not just exist in some building called a church. It is everywhere. That sounds ridiculous to me.

It certainly is not a testimony of Scripture. He was raised Catholic, and thus it is no surprise that he was spiritually dead, and thus he joined a cult in which the leadership is the supreme authority, with both Scripture and adherents being made servants to support it, as they can do no other.

He then becomes disenchanted with that one and joins another group in which the leadership is the supreme authority, with both Scripture and adherents being made servants to support it, as they can do no other.

168 posted on 09/21/2014 10:41:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
If I believe the same thing as hundreds of millions of Christians - or even just one other Christian - how can that be my own personal interpretation?

According to the recourse a RC has to respond to Scriptural refutation, it means one of 3 things, but really only one,

1. It means any interpretation that is not officially (which itself can be differently interpreted) taught by Rome. Except when RCs engage in such, including that 2Pt. 1:20 is referring to this.

2. Or it means any interpretation that serves to contradict official RC teaching, but which would mean Prot interpretations of Scripture that support teachings held by both Caths and Prots are not personal interpretation.

3. Thus the RC censure against personal interpretation really means any interpretation of a Prot, which enables the RC to dismiss it.

All of which is based upon the fallacious premise of the assured veracity of Rome, that an assuredly infallible magisterium is essential for the determination and assurance of Truth (so that laity cannot realize this thru Scriptural substantiation and be right in conflict with Rome), and that Rome alone is the assuredly correct interpreter of Divine revelation Scripture as the historical provider and steward of it.

Only what she says it consists of and means has authority for the RC, thus she is the supreme authority and basis from which all argumentation from faithful RCs flows - even though they may initially invoke Scripture as if it was determinative of doctrine. Be not deceived: doctrinally Scripture is only a servant to be employed to support RC teaching, just as with cultists such as the so-called Jehovah's Witnesses.

169 posted on 09/21/2014 10:43:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

The Lord surely has compassion on those who bounce from one spiritual trap to another. Hopefully the man will rest in the finished work of Christ eventually and leave the blind guides to fall into their own ditch!


170 posted on 09/21/2014 10:45:55 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Hebrews 10

"1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified."
171 posted on 09/21/2014 11:21:47 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Hebrews 9

"24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.


27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
172 posted on 09/21/2014 11:32:33 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: af_vet_1981
A merry heart forth good like a medicine.

"Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.
The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools." (Eccl. 7:3-5 AV).

173 posted on 09/21/2014 11:58:13 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: PieterCasparzen
And they claim it is a re-presentation of the same one true Sacrifice...

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

So much for that false theory...The priests need to pack up and go home...There's no function for them in the church...

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice (once) for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

And there's not been a priest or pope since who has the power to get him up off that throne and down into a wafer...

174 posted on 09/21/2014 12:51:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

“And there’s not been a priest or pope since who has the power to get him up off that throne and down into a wafer... “

+1

Nor a need to ever repeat the sacrifice.

“It is done.” Jesus


175 posted on 09/21/2014 1:29:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: LurkingSince'98; metmom; CynicalBear
..."Why is 2000 years of Catholic belief - superstition..."....

Here's just one example:

It was a religious custom for 'medieval Christians in the catholic church' to regard relics as an important tool in attaining salvation just as much as they regarded holy doctrine.............they believed that if they wanted to be holy they needed holy 'things/ relics' to help them....Today catholics continue to have these medieval beliefs and associations with relics...oftentimes showing affectionate gestures toward them.

catholic priest bowing and praying in front of the remains of a corpse relic....This is an abomination in front of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The relic of the Heart of St. John Mary Vianney at St. Anthony's Catholic Church..note they are bowing before with hands folded in prayer form.

Here's the supposed foot of mary Magdalene on display as a relic

And here catholics are bowing before the arm of Francis Xavier, a priest from Spain.


176 posted on 09/21/2014 6:47:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

177 posted on 09/21/2014 6:48:26 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: caww
and if kneeling before these relics isn't enough evidence that mid-evil practices are not only encouraged by the leadership but they are 'kissing' these body parts with their priests officiating.....

Pope Paul kissing the vile holding another priests blood

And another priest bowing before this relic of blood


178 posted on 09/21/2014 7:07:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: LurkingSince'98; caww
Why is 2000 years of Catholic belief - superstition...

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer anyway.

And 500 years of prot beliefs - truth?

What's truth is Jesus and Scripture, not *prot beliefs*.

When *prot beliefs* line up with Scripture, they are correct because SCRIPTURE is true.

When *prot beliefs* don't line up with Scripture, they are incorrect because SCRIPTURE is true.

179 posted on 09/21/2014 7:13:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

Pagan practices


180 posted on 09/21/2014 7:14:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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