Posted on 09/08/2014 7:13:24 PM PDT by daniel1212
Movie :
KJB: The Book That Changed the World
Of all places, Hulu has this well done, interesting and edifying documentary (with ads) with actor John Rhys-Davies.
Describes King James 1 upbringing and and political events, including the Gunpowder Plot and shows historical background and aspects which led to this translation.
1:33 long. Worth watching. Has ads (choose priceline ones)
True, outside of a miracle, likewise without the Jews the church would not exist, and the Gentiles and thus the "one new man" church would not have a true vine to be grafted into.
As for the debt,
like Tyndale's translation and the Geneva Bible, the Authorized Version was translated primarily from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts, although with secondary reference both to the Latin Vulgate, and to more recent scholarly Latin versions; two books of the Apocrypha were translated from a Latin source. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Translation)
Examination of the 1611 King James Bible clearly that its translators were influenced much more by the Geneva Bible, than by any other source. - http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history
Yet the KJV is quite close to the DouayRheims Bible, with some significant exceptions such as penance for repentance. /
Thanks I'll watch it...
See post 21
No book, has ever bought or lost a soul.
OK. Though I was not saying it was intentional, but that the (often seen) statement was false, wrong, erroneous, a falsehood = a lie. But rules are rules.
My reaction was to his claim that "All Bibles came from the Vulgate."
The term "Bible" means Jewish Scriptures (Torah, Prophets and Writings) as well as Christian Scriptures (Old and New Testaments.) The Vulgate is a 400 AD translation to Latin, all of the Scriptures both Jewish and Christian existed before they were translated.
“They knew their teachings were not right but they did not want everyone to know that.”
What’s sad is that the apostle Paul, who had real authority from God, complimented people who went to the Scriptures to check HIM out! Quite a difference, eh?
“Yet the KJV is quite close to the DouayRheims Bible, with some significant exceptions such as penance for repentance.”
It is hardly surprising that the current DouayRheims Bible is close to the KJV, since the original DouayRheims Bible was one almost no one wanted to ever use.
“The New Testament was reprinted in 1600, 1621 and 1633. The Old Testament volumes were reprinted in 1635 but neither thereafter for another hundred years...Much of the text of the 1582/1610 bible employed a densely latinate vocabulary, to the extent of being in places unreadable. Consequently this translation was replaced by a revision undertaken by bishop Richard Challoner; the New Testament in three editions 1749, 1750, and 1752; the Old Testament (minus the Vulgate apocrypha), in 1750. Although retaining the title DouayRheims Bible, the Challoner revision was a new version, tending to take as its base text the King James Bible...”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douay%E2%80%93Rheims_Bible
Since 1750, the DouayRheims Bible has largely been the KJV with Catholic theology inserted so the ‘faithful’ would not be ‘deceived’ into ‘error’ by reading what the Word of God actually says.
LOL! As if the King James was the one and only Bible.
Good grief...you got the Bible from the Catholics.
Why don’t people accept that fact?
**the KJV has cost the loss of more souls than any other book in history.**
I agree, because it isn’t the entire Bible.
They only put it together. They did not write it. God is the author.
God inspired the authors through the Holy Spirit.
There really was a Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Peter, Paul, James, Titus, Timothy, etc.
No joke. Everyone knows that or they should.
Don't kid yourself...The Douay Rheims could just have well have been used for the Reformation and it wouldn't have slowed it down a bit...
The point of all of that is to state that locals could read in the vernacular IF the Bishop thought they could handle it.
Pretty white of them.
** God is the author.**
Then why did you write this if all those people were real people and wrote Letters, Gospels, Books of the Bible
Can you make up your mind?
It's not that they hate the King James Bible...They hate having the bible in a language where people can read it...They don't want us reading it...Most Catholics don't even own a bible...That's how insignificant it is to them...
What?... oh come on... that can't be true... can it?
Well, God can turn a phrase as well as an Enlishman.
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