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To: Gamecock

Curious. At the end of EVERY service, Joel invites people to receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior and prays the prayer with them to revive Jesus.

Maybe you should take a closer look at his services and ministry at Lakewood before joining the forces of darkness in not only accusing the brethren but attacking God’s anointed.

Nobody’s prefect and nobody fits in everyone’s mold. But hulagirl and the Bible both plead with God’s people to stop condemning other Christians. If Joel is not your cup of tea, move on, but be careful about attacking God’s anointed.

I used to think he was a “good-time Charlie.” Then one day about seven years ago it seemed like the Lord plopped them right in front of me and said, “Listen to them.” Once I did, I began to change from an incredibly negative Christian to a happy, joyful Christian, for all the reasons you describe in your post. You give good reasons for our joy and so does Joel. God has not called Joel to be a teacher but an encourager, an absolutely valid and needed ministry in the Body of Christ.


19 posted on 09/02/2014 6:27:42 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: PapaNew

“” At the end of EVERY service, Joel invites people to receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior and prays the prayer with them to revive Jesus.””

Oh? Based on what? Certainly not sin.

Jesus did not die to get me a better parking slot.


20 posted on 09/02/2014 6:29:28 PM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: PapaNew; Gamecock
But hulagirl and the Bible both plead with God’s people to stop condemning other Christians.

We are to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not. Jesus and Paul both warned plenty about false teachers, wolves in sheeps clothing.

Sure, some of what the Osteens say is true, but much is wrong and Jesus is hardly mentioned.

But that is like Satan's tactic, to mix enough truth with his lies that he can deceive people. If he just outright lied, people would see through it in a heartbeat.

Sure, he says lots of positive uplifting things, but any motivational speaker can do that, throw in a few Scripture verses to make it feel all warm and fuzzy, and slap a *in Jesus name* on it for good measure.

That doesn't make them Christians.

Their message is sadly lacking in a call for repentance and confession of sin, mention of sin except what it does to hurt you, and mention of Jesus.

It's all about the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.

If Joel is not your cup of tea, move on, but be careful about attacking God’s anointed.

Ah, the old fallback when nothing else works.

If you're going to claim that he is God's anointed, then you'd better be absolutely POSITIVE that he IS anointed by God, and that he is God's because if he's not, you're going to be on dangerous ground attributing to God something that is not.

86 posted on 09/03/2014 1:53:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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