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To: PapaNew; Gamecock
But hulagirl and the Bible both plead with God’s people to stop condemning other Christians.

We are to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not. Jesus and Paul both warned plenty about false teachers, wolves in sheeps clothing.

Sure, some of what the Osteens say is true, but much is wrong and Jesus is hardly mentioned.

But that is like Satan's tactic, to mix enough truth with his lies that he can deceive people. If he just outright lied, people would see through it in a heartbeat.

Sure, he says lots of positive uplifting things, but any motivational speaker can do that, throw in a few Scripture verses to make it feel all warm and fuzzy, and slap a *in Jesus name* on it for good measure.

That doesn't make them Christians.

Their message is sadly lacking in a call for repentance and confession of sin, mention of sin except what it does to hurt you, and mention of Jesus.

It's all about the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.

If Joel is not your cup of tea, move on, but be careful about attacking God’s anointed.

Ah, the old fallback when nothing else works.

If you're going to claim that he is God's anointed, then you'd better be absolutely POSITIVE that he IS anointed by God, and that he is God's because if he's not, you're going to be on dangerous ground attributing to God something that is not.

86 posted on 09/03/2014 1:53:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Sure, some of what the Osteens say is true, but much is wrong and Jesus is hardly mentioned.

As previously mentioned, Joel does an alter call TWICE at each televised service, inviting those people to come to Jesus Christ for salvation. That’s not “hardly mentioning” Jesus.

Their message is sadly lacking in a call for repentance and confession of sin, mention of sin except what it does to hurt you, and mention of Jesus.

Been over this also. What is N.T. repentance from? Where did Jesus demand confession of sin?

If you're going to claim that he is God's anointed, then you'd better be absolutely POSITIVE that he IS anointed by God, and that he is God's because if he's not, you're going to be on dangerous ground attributing to God something that is not.

Are you sure he’s NOT called and anointed of the Lord with a ministry of encouragement to restore joy to God’s people many of whom so badly need it as well as a friend of sinners? If not YOU should be warned not to attack God’s anointed.

As I’ve also already said, if you have a legitimate beef with a minister of God that is Biblically based and supportable, that's one thing, as long as your motive is to help that minster or others from harm. But here, Joel has been viciously attacked with NO reasonable scriptural support or evidence and the motives doesn't appear to be that of healing but that of spite and contempt. That comes under the heading of allegiance with the accuser of the brethren himself.

115 posted on 09/03/2014 12:22:48 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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