Bishop Schneider Says Traditional Catholics Are Not “Extremest”, But Rather The Hope For The Future

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Bishop Schneider Says Traditional Catholics Are Not “Extremest”, But Rather The Hope For The Future

Posted on August 29, 2014 by fc

Bishop Schneider had an interview published in the June 6th 2014 CatholicHerald.co.uk, “We Are In The Fourth Great Crisis Of The Church“.  If you have the time please read the whole great article.  Here I have attempted to only highlight the main points in the article.

In his interview he said we are in the fourth great crisis of the Church.  This is spearheaded by the liberals in the Church who are collaborating with, what he calls, the “new paganism” and this is actually driving the Catholic Church towards a split.  In this collaboration, we see something like what happened with the fourth-century Arian heresy in which “a large part of the Church hierarchy was implicated”.

The root and cause of this crisis he says is “the “banal” and casual treatment of the Blessed Sacrament by clergy, including some of those in positions of authority, and the laity, who are going along with secular society.  

“The Eucharist is at the heart of the Church,” he said. “When the heart is weak, the whole body is weak.”  He strongly believes that receiving Holy Communion in hand contributes gradually to the loss of the belief in the Real Presence and in transubstantiation.  

“It seems that the majority of the clergy and the bishops are content with this modern use of Communion in hand… For me this is incredible. How is this possible, when Jesus is present in the little Hosts?  There is the grievous fact of the loss of the Eucharistic fragments. And the fragments of the consecrated Host are crushed by feet. This is horrible! Our God, in our churches, is trampled by feet!  It is time that the bishops (should) raise their voices for the Eucharistic Jesus who has no voice to defend himself.  Here is an attack on the Most Holy, an attack on the Eucharistic faith.”

He acknowledges that we have been in this crisis for the last 50 years, (Since Vatican II), with great confusion over doctrine and liturgy.  An example of this “confusion” is clear in the preparation of the Extraordinary Synod coming up this October in Rome:

“I think this issue of the reception of Holy Communion by the remarried will blow up and show the real crisis in the Church. The real crisis of the Church is anthropocentrism and the forgetting of Christo-centrism….  This is the deepest evil: 1) man, or the clergy, putting themselves in the centre when they are celebrating liturgy, (in some churches God, in the tabernacle, is put in a corner, while the priest takes centre stage), and 2) when clergy change the revealed truth of God, for instance, concerning the Sixth Commandment and human sexuality.”  (In this he is referring to homosexuals and divorced people living together or in a second marriage.)

He is very critical of trying to change Catholic pastoral practices, (like giving communion to people living in sin and then calling it mercy).  “This is a kind of sophism.  It is comparable to a doctor who gives a diabetic patient sugar, although he knows it will kill him.”

He says: “Unfortunately there were … members of the clergy and even bishops who put grains of incense in front of the statue of the emperor or of a pagan idol or who delivered the books of the Holy Scripture to be burned. Such collaborationist Christians and clerics were called in those times thurificati or traitors.  We also have those who collaborate, or are traitors of the Faith today”. St Lawrence’s Martyrdom

As a consequence of liberal clergy and laity, he see a split coming eventually.  “I can presume that such a separation will affect each level of Catholics: lay people and even not excluding the high clergy.”

He hopes that this split will eventually lead to a renewal of the Church in a traditional way.   The present “anthropocentric” [man-centred] clerical system will collapse. “This liberal clerical edifice will crash down because they have no roots and no fruits.”   There are hardly any vocations in any of the ordinary dioceses or religious orders.

Bishop Schneider warns that “traditional Catholics may, for a time, be persecuted or discriminated against, even at the behest of those who have “power in the exterior structures of the Church”.  All of us traditional Catholics are already badly persecuted by the people in power in the Church.  Each one of us can tell our own story.

In the end, he says “The Supreme Magisterium” will restate clear doctrinal statement, and no longer will go along with neo-pagan world and ideas.  The lack of clarity in the documents of Vatican II has led to this confusion.

When asked if, as a bishop, it is difficult to speak out against what is happening in the Church, he said; “It is quite insignificant to be popular or unpopular. For every member of the clergy, their first interest should be to be popular in the eyes of God and not in the eyes of today or of the powerful. Jesus said a warning: ‘Woe to you when people speak well of you.’”  

He went on: “Popularity is false… Great saints of the Church, such as Thomas More and John Fisher, rejected popularity… those today who are worried about the popularity of the mass media and public opinion… will be remembered as cowards and not as heroes of the Faith.”

Many “Catholics” who go along with the pagan world, are considered “good” Catholics, while “those who are faithful to the Catholic faith or those who are promoting the glory of Christ in the liturgy, are labelled extremists”.

He also brought up the issue of the poor, which for the liberals seems to trump over morals or sacred liturgy.    We see this when so many Catholics voted for a president who is for murdering of the unborn babies.  They justified this because he is “supposedly” for the poor.  Bishop Schneider contradicts this idea: “This is erroneous. The first commandment which Christ gave us was to adore God alone. Liturgy is not a meeting of friends. It is our first task to adore and glorify God in the liturgy and also in our manner of life. From a true adoration and love of God grows love for the poor and our neighbour. It is a consequence.”

He ends by saying that the traditional Catholics “have kept the purity of their faith and they represent the true power of the Church in the eyes of God and not those who are in administration.”

He ends on a positive note: “I am not worried about the future. The Church is Christ’s Church and He is the real head of the Church, the Pope is only the vicar of Christ. The soul of the Church is the Holy Spirit and He is powerful.”  

So all of you traditional Catholic bishops, priests, religious and people reading this, you are the ones that Bishop Schneider has said will keep the Catholic faith pure and continuing.  After most of the other bishops, religious, priests, and other “Catholics” continuously put you down, know that God is listening and at least there is one bishop who acknowledges the precious value you have for God’s Catholic Church.  Thank you for your heroic virtues of standing strong while everything seems to be collapsing around us and no one in the Church seems to care.  God and Mary do.

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[Elsie]

You and your harem of pom-pom cheerleaders are an embarrassment to the Catholic religion.

It's quite possible that the girls are a bunch of poor-catechized Catholics that didn't pay enough attention to Sister Mary Elizbeth in school.

When their knuckles healed they bolted to the PROTs, only to realize that Mother Church WOULD receive them back into full fellowship again.

Please bear with them as them come back up to speed.

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Romans 14:1-4

1 Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. 2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. 3 The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

[Elsie]

Somewhat refreshing to see the traditional wolf vs the modern sheep's ecumenical clothing.

But...

Galatians 5:15

But if you bite and devour one another,
beware lest you be consumed by one another!

[Elsie]

Sigh....

Just like every LEO just HATES to be called to attempt to end a furball of a family disturbance of the peace; when he arrives the quarreling members suddenly FORGET that THEY were fighting each OTHER and they turn, en masse, and LEAP on the officer!

[Elsie]

[Elsie]

What's next? Here I stand, I can do no other?

Now THIS is downright vicious!

[Elsie]

This is somehow your Reformed business because.....??????

Roast 'em Danno

[metmom]

I can understand your passion, metmom, but your fears are unfounded. Do you honestly think the current liberal Catholic Church, which is in the process of crashing down into rubble, is ever going to reinstitute the Middle Ages? REALLY???

Not at this point in history.

What my point was is that the mindset is alive and well, and I am grateful to God that there are mechanisms in place that prevent those desires from being able to be fulfilled.

Problem is, with that kind of thinking still being more widespread within Catholicism that I would have imagined, it goes to show that nothing has really changed within it. Only that external sources prevent them from acting on it and that given the chance, I don't doubt that we'd see action, if it were possible.

Please. Let me know when some limp-wristed, evolutionist, Democrat bishop starts building pyres.

They wouldn't. They'd just look the other way while someone else did.

[Elsie]

I gave no permission for this plagiarism.

Atta boy!!

Take the high road!!

[Elsie]

If y’all don’t want your quotes spread around, then don’t put them up.

Sometimes those partaking in an improv routine have to stop the jokes and deal with an audience heckler.

[Elsie]

Nevertheless, I believe it is not Christian to do that with the specific person’s permission.

LOts of folks 'believe' that a lot of things that Catholics do are not Christian.

[Elsie]

Ah...

Like narses; seems sometimes that YOU are rather wrong; too.

[Elsie]

And trying to coerce people into behaving a certain way by accusing them of not acting in a *Christian* manner is manipulation, plain and simple.

And so selective; too!

Oh! to have the forgiveness shown THESE folks have received:

Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.^[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.^[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony^[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

[Elsie]

The level of rhetoric in this thread is out of control.

It's GOOD to be the King!!

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Unless you’re an SSPXer, I doubt you fully grasp the subject of this discussion, so your comment is neither helpful nor appropriate.

[Elsie]

It's GOOD to be the; uh; Queen!!

[Elsie]

I will never understand you people.

'Poorly Catechized' covers a multitude of sins...

[Elsie]

It's never going to happen, any more than Salt Lake City "ruling the world" as some FReepers so fear.

They DO??

Ha ha ha!

(Cue Mr.T's favorite response here.)

[Elsie]

I read over the thread and have ZERO interest in stepping into this hornet's nest.

There's yer problem; as I see it.

I, for one, could NEVER read over a thread and THEN decide to join in.

I usually start at reply #1, an then let the chips fall where they may...

[antidisestablishment]

Wow, I think your last comment would apply across the board today with the majority of church leaders. They are more afraid of losing their C3 status than facing the Judgement.

Let’s remove our own planks before trying to focus on their stye. Niemoller and his supporters were a definite minority.

[Elsie]

HMMMmmm...

...not yet.