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Powerful last line: It’s easy enough to say that Islam is a religion of peace. But sometimes, paradoxically, it is necessary to fight for peace. Once the fight has begun, it’s time to choose sides.
1 posted on 08/30/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by Salvation
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Phil Lawler Ping.

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2 posted on 08/30/2014 11:24:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Then we, too, would be terrorists.”

NONSENSE!!

“It is good to fear the sword of the state, for it has it’s purpose.”

Romans 13:4


3 posted on 08/30/2014 11:38:08 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm tired of people not recognizing sarcasm!)
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To: Salvation

Christians dying by the scores by Muslims is no issue.

Let someone offend a Muslim and the world is offended.


6 posted on 08/30/2014 11:50:01 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: Salvation

The time for dialogue is over.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 11:52:45 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Salvation

9 posted on 08/30/2014 12:04:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Salvation

War of Grenada part II.

Screw em...


10 posted on 08/30/2014 12:09:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Salvation
Thus last week Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga said that he feared the brutal persecution of Christians by the Islamic State “may push back advancements in the Christian-Muslim dialogue.”

What a moron...There is no Christian-muzlim dialogue, only Catholic-muzlim dialogue...

And never will be...

11 posted on 08/30/2014 12:13:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation
They have no desire to share ideas with Iraqi Christians; they want to annihilate them

This particular trait the Islamists share with "progressives" - they have no interest in dialogue or parity, they seek the annihilation of their opponents.

The nature of evil, I guess.

13 posted on 08/30/2014 12:31:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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I'm sure the Catechism states there is a thing as a just war and a time for conflict when all other reasonable efforts for peace become futile.

The Pope himself has called on the world to ‘do something’ about the butchery against Christians by uslimes, implying military or warlike action.

Church teaching doesn't change no matter what a man says. Or woman for that matter.

23 posted on 08/30/2014 1:51:10 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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What Christians need to do is insure that the Muslims pay a bigger toll in their Christian killing raids than what they get.

They are going to be killed any way so why should they be afraid to fight back?

If your enemy is coming at you with an ax there is nothing to consider except get them first.


25 posted on 08/30/2014 2:02:07 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: Salvation

I’ve said before that I have long ago come to despise words like “dialogue”, “collaboration”, “social justice”, etc., etc., just to name a few. There are many more— catch phrases that shout socialism, and broadly label the Catholic heirarchy as thoroughly detached-from-reality— laughable, and discredited.

Worse, the aforementioned words are usually applied to killers, killing, or to killer nations. Abortion purveyors and providers even borrow the use of these words, along with Marxists and socialist politicians.

These namby pamby words are symptomatic of modernism doing its best to kill the Church in the West. Very painful.


26 posted on 08/30/2014 2:13:33 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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If anyone finds any “innocent moslems,” I’m fine with not killing them. As long as they abandon their satanic religion.


27 posted on 08/30/2014 2:17:18 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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I keep telling myself that the current Church crop of “elder statesmen” will be gone soon. I tell myself that the up and coming generation are men who are not under the spell of the “spirit” of Vatican II, and they will lead with a true understanding of what confronts us. Otherwise, we’re lost.


28 posted on 08/30/2014 2:30:14 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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I trust that rational readers recognize the problem here.

Yes rational readers do recognize the problem.

30 posted on 08/30/2014 3:09:17 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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I support the Popes in their calls for dialogue but more and more understand why the Crusades were called. Pope Benedict did nail the main problem with Islam in Germany in 2006 but didn’t seem to receive a lot of support for speaking the truth in a PC world.


31 posted on 08/30/2014 3:12:07 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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The US bishops’ conference, in statement released shortly after the brutal murder of James Foley was posted on the internet, reiterated the desire for dialogue with Islam and lamented that some Catholics have lost interest in that inter-faith conversation.

It is very easy to lose interest when you are dealing with evil. There can be no dialogue. It is like trying to negotiate with a bunch of Orcs!

33 posted on 08/30/2014 3:57:28 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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Tell them that we are interested in dialogue, but only if they disassociate themselves completely from those who incite, commit, or justify sectarian violence.

"Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah – unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions." (Quran 3:28; see also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 22:78; 40:28.)

How can there ever be sincere dialogue between Christians who abide by the Eighth Commandment and Muslims who engage in taqiyya?

Jesus charges us to "Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves". This requires the wisdom to recognize the basic fact that practitioners of taquiyya are too deceptive to engage in honest dialogue with Christians.

Contrasting "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Quran (8:12) vs. the statement from the US Bishops Conference: "We understand the confusion and deep emotions stirred by real and apparent acts of aggression and discrimination by certain Muslims against non-Muslims, often against Christians abroad" underscores the ludicrous disconnect between naive, delusional churchmen and the bloody reality of Islam which is on display daily right outside their ivory towers. Their wimpy, foolish statement reduces the existential struggle between the followers of Christ and the religion of pieces to a stream of psycho-babble.

34 posted on 08/30/2014 4:21:59 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Islam is a war plan.


35 posted on 08/30/2014 5:12:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Salvation; All

I was going through the Catholic News Service this morning, I found this story from 2008 where a Chaldean Bishop was kidnapped and killed and one can read the story for itself.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801432.htm

That war is a maze, now we have a moral responsibility. It’s all very troubling. But back in 2003, I guess Pat (Buchanan) was right.


38 posted on 08/31/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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