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Successful Okla. lawsuit could stop future black ma
cna ^ | August 29, 2014 | Kevin J. Jones

Posted on 08/29/2014 2:55:40 PM PDT by NYer

Eucharistic Adoration. Credit: Elisa Pires via JMJ Rio 2013/Flickr (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0).

Eucharistic Adoration. Credit: Elisa Pires via JMJ Rio 2013/Flickr (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0).

Oklahoma City, Okla., Aug 28, 2014 / 04:49 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A lawyer who helped recover a stolen Host that organizers of an Oklahoma City black mass intended to desecrate said that the Church’s legal victory could have far-reaching effects.

“I don’t think we’re going to see Satanists doing this again, or they’ll going to understand we’re going to come after them, anywhere, any time this happens,” attorney Michael W. Caspino of the Irvine, Calif.-based law firm Busch & Caspino told CNA Aug. 27.

“We’ve now gutted the significance of their black mass. Now it’s really just a bad show with bad actors,” Caspino said.

The occult group Dakhma of Angra Mainyu scheduled a black mass at the Oklahoma City Civic Center Music Hall Sept. 21. A black mass is a sacrilegious ceremony that invokes Satan and mocks the Catholic Mass. It involves the desecration of the Eucharist, generally by stealing a consecrated Host from a Catholic church and using it in a profane, sexual ritual.

The event organizer, Adam Daniels, claimed to have in his possession a Host mailed to him by a friend that he believed had been consecrated at a Catholic Mass.

Caspino’s law firm filed suit against the event organizer in Oklahoma District Court Aug. 20 on behalf of Oklahoma City Archbishop Paul Coakley, on the grounds that the Host was stolen property.

An attorney representing Daniels gave the reputed consecrated Host to a priest of the Oklahoma City archdiocese on Aug. 21. The organizers still intend to simulate a black mass, but without the use of a consecrated Host.

Caspino said the primary goal of the lawsuit was not to stop the event but to “get our Blessed Sacrament back and not let them defile it.”

While U.S. laws do not recognize Catholic belief, Caspino pointed out that the laws do recognize property rights. A judge issued a temporary restraining order against the black mass organizers on the grounds the lawsuit “had a likelihood of success,” the attorney explained.

“We live in a society under our Constitution that allows people to do dumb things. And now they’re going to do something dumb. I don’t support it, I think it’s terrible, but we don’t really have much as far as legal means to stop them from doing this crazy show.

“The great thing is that we got the Eucharist back and the significance of the show is now gone.”

The attorney also praised Archbishop Coakley’s leadership in seeking to halt the black mass.

“This is a real courageous stand.”

Archbishop Coakley on Aug. 21 expressed relief at the return of the Host, but warned that the event poses “spiritual danger” to all who are involved in it.

Caspino stressed the need to speak out against events like the black mass.

“Every Catholic out there, every good Christian out there, we need to stare down the devil. We need to stand up to the devil. The devil is weak when you stare him down. That’s what we did here. We stared down the devil, and the devil blinked.”

“In your daily life, in everything you do, we’ve got to stare down the devil.”

Caspino added that he was “very disappointed” in the management of the Oklahoma City Civic Center Music Hall.

An official with the music hall told CNA in July that because the hall is a city-run facility, it must operate in a position of “neutrality” and must be willing to host any event “as long as it was not hosting something specifically illegal in nature.”

Caspino said there is “a real lack of leadership” at the event venue.

“It’s one thing to allow different religions to come in and celebrate their religion. It’s a whole different thing to allow a group to come in that seeks to desecrate and insult another religion,” he said.

“We should be having more positive things going on on public property and not such negative things.”

He added that the music hall management ignored its own rules against “hatefulness” and “violations of community standards.”

“There are things out there that are legal, but are tasteless and violate community standards. They should have stopped (the black mass) just based on that. Not everything that’s legal is right,” he said. “The law doesn’t cover every single situation out there. We have to use common sense.”

Caspino said it is common sense not to host an event that has “no redeeming value other than to insult other people and desecrate religious institutions.”

“We try to be a country that gives people freedoms to go ahead and do things,” he said. “But there are boundaries to that too. We should probably use a little bit more common sense than to say we’re just going to allow whatever is legal.”
 


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To: Iscool
So what??? You'll crush the 1st Amendment to the Constitution because your feelings are hurt??? People that think like that are what's wrong with America...

See... Here we go...

Better go hide the cinnamon rolls

And the rye
and the wheat
and the oat
and the cornbread
and the pitas
and the taco shells
and the ho-hos
...

21 posted on 08/29/2014 5:58:20 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Iscool; cloudmountain

All masses are blasphemy by the word of God.

So, by that standard, let’s stop them all.


22 posted on 08/29/2014 6:02:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: AppyPappy

>> “Was the Host stolen or was it given to someone?” <<

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It was found in a Nabisco sampler box.


23 posted on 08/29/2014 6:04:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MeganC
Actually, in law it's a conditional gift: you are expected to consume the Host immediately, not go trucking off to some disgusting bunch of Satanists.

Compare: your boss (or a family member) gives you something that you're expected to use in a particular way: maybe cash to purchase something for the business or the home, maybe a six-pack or a nice bottle of whisky that you're supposed to use to entertain clients for the firm or a family party. Instead you go off and use the cash or the alcohol for your own purposes, maybe a party at your place.

You have actually stolen that stuff, even though it was "given" to you.

And that doesn't even get into the religious dimension.

24 posted on 08/29/2014 6:58:54 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

To compare the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ to a six-pack of beer or bottle of whiskey is disgusting.

I now see further evidence of the claim that most Catholics don’t believe in transubstantiation.

I recommend you read up on the life of St Tarcisius.


25 posted on 08/29/2014 7:15:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Iscool

People who come down firmly in alliance with devil-worshipping satanists because they share a common hatred of Catholicism are what’s wrong with America.


26 posted on 08/29/2014 7:22:07 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ignorance of the lineage of the mass from the OT leading up to Christ's sacrifice, and the permeation of scripture throughout the mass, are both unbecoming. I suggest that the resident member of peanut gallery go take a running leap at him/herself.
27 posted on 08/29/2014 7:25:39 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Quote-Ignorance of the lineage of the mass from the OT leading up to Christ’s sacrifice

Ignorance of Torah and prophets warnings against sun god worship that goes on in the greco roman latin churches have led billions to worship greco roman latin counterfeits instead of the genuine Torah that became flesh...


28 posted on 08/29/2014 7:35:51 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Salvation
Satan and his minions are alive and well, provoking the standard Catholic bashing. This time the aim is directed at the Holy Eucharist. But, that's been happening for 2000 years now so I don't think it will stop here.

I don't bash other faiths but that doesn't stop the Catholic haters, does it?

29 posted on 08/29/2014 7:56:24 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: delchiante

sun god worship eh? Please, expand on this point.


30 posted on 08/29/2014 8:08:56 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: MeganC

But if you come forward to receive the Eucharist unworthily (non-Catholic or someone else — a Catholic — in the state of sin), you commit a grave sin (mortal sin.)

And yes it applies to all who might do this.

They know it’s wrong
Yet they go ahead and do it anyway


31 posted on 08/29/2014 8:23:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Successful Okla. lawsuit could stop future black masses

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/successful-okla-lawsuit-could-stop-future-black-masses-86154/


32 posted on 08/29/2014 8:25:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AppyPappy

That is possible, but they will be unconsecrated.


33 posted on 08/29/2014 8:27:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

BTTT.


34 posted on 08/29/2014 8:28:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor

Even the Last Supper?

A Mass is a renewal, a re-presentation of the Last Supper.


35 posted on 08/29/2014 8:30:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The last supper had nothing to do with any pagan ‘mass.’

It was a recital of the blessing of Yehova by the Meek Zedek as recorded in Numbers 6:24.

Do catholics ever read their Bible?


36 posted on 08/29/2014 8:41:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, but they expect non-Catholics to bow down and thank them incessantly for giving us something they disregard.


37 posted on 08/29/2014 8:46:50 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

>> “Ignorance of the lineage of the mass from the OT” <<

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Sun god worship is something all would be wise to remain ignorant of.

Your sun cookie is vile and blasphemous.
.


38 posted on 08/29/2014 8:50:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you ever read the New Testament?


39 posted on 08/29/2014 8:52:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yes, as you already know I read the NT, and there is nothing therein to support the ‘mass.’
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40 posted on 08/29/2014 8:57:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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