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The Hardest Place for Us to Take Our Special Needs Child? Our Church
life news ^ | Jesi Smith

Posted on 08/25/2014 7:02:07 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: vladimir998

And you’re “straining at gnats.”

You didn’t see the part in your link that said “evangelicals strongly backed Romney?”


101 posted on 08/26/2014 3:36:51 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: papertyger

“And you’re “straining at gnats.””

It still happened.

“You didn’t see the part in your link that said “evangelicals strongly backed Romney?””

My point - proved by the linked to article - was that it was not only mainstream Protestants who voted for Obama as claimed, but also some Evangelicals. I was right. End of story. The fact that most Evangelicals voted for Romney changes nothing I said for I never claimed other wise.

I was right. That will not change.


102 posted on 08/26/2014 3:44:59 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: papertyger

**I believe there is a “grace” conferred upon the assembly that is otherwise not conferred.**

Absolutely.


103 posted on 08/26/2014 3:46:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

Congratulations. You’ve discovered the “bell curve.”

Now if you only understood what it means....


104 posted on 08/26/2014 3:51:27 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: vladimir998

We know that you will not change your opinion.

However, if you expect us to take your word for it that something you claim happen, because *It happened* is all we need from you, guess again.

No one is obligated to take someone’s word for something, especially when it is clear they are posting from an anti-Protestant stance and their perception of things can easily be colored when they read something.

IOW, if you don’t put up, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously. Or even believe you, for that matter.


105 posted on 08/26/2014 3:58:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: papertyger
Because I don't need it as a shot in the arm.

And besides, grace is given to us as a gift through faith in Christ.

Doing activities does not confer grace. There's no Scriptural support for that.

Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

106 posted on 08/26/2014 4:01:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: papertyger

I was right.

That will not change.


107 posted on 08/26/2014 4:09:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: metmom; papertyger

“We know that you will not change your opinion.”

There’s no logical reason for me to do so.

“However, if you expect us to take your word for it that something you claim happen, because *It happened* is all we need from you, guess again.”

Don’t believe me. Go to the linked to article.

“No one is obligated to take someone’s word for something, especially when it is clear they are posting from an anti-Protestant stance and their perception of things can easily be colored when they read something.”

How on earth is stating the fact that some Evangelicals voted for Obama “anti-Protestant”? And if stating a fact about some Evangelicals voting for Obama is “anti-Protestant” then what is this: “Would to God my Catholic brethren knew their scripture like even evangelical KIDS.
The Democrats would never see another Catholic vote.....”

Wouldn’t that have to be anti-Catholic ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DEFINITION OF BIGOTRY??? You’re not only the Kettle, you’re the Pot too.

“IOW, if you don’t put up, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously. Or even believe you, for that matter.”

Again, read the article I linked to. Clearly you have not read it or else you wouldn’t be asking for what was already provided.


108 posted on 08/26/2014 4:17:24 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Alex Murphy; Biggirl

**How does “let the children come to Me” contradict my previous posts?**

Humph. I don’t see it.


109 posted on 08/26/2014 4:37:58 PM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: Biggirl; Alex Murphy

**In order to bring people to the Lord, you do have to welcome them. It is about welcoming people, even special needs folks.**

I have been in conservative Reformed churches for 20 years now. One thing that always strikes me is that we seem to have more special needs folks, per capita, in our congregations than any other church I have been a member of, visited, etc.

Why? I am convinced it is for a couple of reasons.

Our view on the sanctity of life

and

Our view of the absolute sovereignty of God. The majority of churches will at least give lip service to this idea, but we really mean it. That gives a lot of comfort to parents in struggling with trying to understand why this happened. To know their special needs children are image bearers, just like other children, is a great source of comfort.


110 posted on 08/26/2014 4:44:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: Morgana

>> “The mother should have taken her son to the Pentecostal church down the street, there the son could have hit his tambourine and fit right in.” <<

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That was exactly my thought as I read the article.
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111 posted on 08/26/2014 4:49:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: vladimir998; metmom; papertyger; Gamecock
How on earth is stating the fact that some Evangelicals voted for Obama “anti-Protestant”?

I dunno. How on earth is stating the fact that more Catholics than Protestants voted for Obama “anti-Catholic”?

112 posted on 08/26/2014 4:50:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: metmom

No Kidding!


113 posted on 08/26/2014 4:52:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Gamecock; Biggirl; PastorBooks
I have been in conservative Reformed churches for 20 years now. One thing that always strikes me is that we seem to have more special needs folks, per capita, in our congregations than any other church I have been a member of, visited, etc.

Why? I am convinced it is for a couple of reasons.

Our view on the sanctity of life

and

Our view of the absolute sovereignty of God. The majority of churches will at least give lip service to this idea, but we really mean it. That gives a lot of comfort to parents in struggling with trying to understand why this happened. To know their special needs children are image bearers, just like other children, is a great source of comfort.

Amen to that.

114 posted on 08/26/2014 4:52:54 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

“I dunno. How on earth is stating the fact that more Catholics than Protestants voted for Obama “anti-Catholic”?”

There are only 65 million Catholics in the USA and not all of them can or did vote.

There are 165 million Protestants and not all of them can or did vote.

I’ll apply the same measuring stick to both: I’ll assume one-third did not or could not vote.

Thus, if 50% (that’s what the PEW Forum says) of Catholic voters cast ballots for Obama that would be about 22 million votes.

If 42% of Protestants voted for Obama (according to PEW), that would be about 46,200,000. That means more than twice as many Protestants voted for Obama than did Catholics.

Remember, Obama got 65 million votes. What I just wrote above comes to be 68,200,000 so I am off by several million votes, but the idea that twice as many Protestants voted for Obama than did Catholics would still be true or darn close.

Thus, your question, “How on earth is stating the fact that more Catholics than Protestants voted for Obama “anti-Catholic”?” could be answered this way: Perhaps because it is untrue.


115 posted on 08/26/2014 5:22:54 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: editor-surveyor; All

“That was exactly my thought as I read the article.”

Now before anyone jumps my case for telling this joke a Pentecostal Preacher told it to me...

Catholics kneel in the pews..

Bapitsts sit in the pews...

Pentecostals jump over the pews!


116 posted on 08/26/2014 5:43:10 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

come to All Saints Catholic church in our town, we’d welcome you with open arms as having returned to your Christian roots and we’d applaud your efforts to raise music unto the Lord!!


117 posted on 08/26/2014 7:43:04 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: vladimir998
There are 165 million Protestants and not all of them can or did vote. I’ll apply the same measuring stick to both: I’ll assume one-third did not or could not vote. If 42% of Protestants voted for Obama (according to PEW), that would be about 46,200,000. That means more than twice as many Protestants voted for Obama than did Catholics. Remember, Obama got 65 million votes.

At this juncture, it would be helpful if you gave a definition of the term "Protestant".

118 posted on 08/26/2014 8:11:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Kackikat

Ping to post 118


119 posted on 08/27/2014 5:33:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

“At this juncture, it would be helpful if you gave a definition of the term “Protestant”.”

No, actually it’s unnecessary. Your argument would then be with PEW and not me.


120 posted on 08/27/2014 5:52:22 AM PDT by vladimir998
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