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To: Faith Presses On

Glad you found your way through part of the Garden of the bible, But the stones and Briars might cause stumbling if you don’t get the entire truth that John mentions — Holy Tradition. The things that there was no room to write down.


198 posted on 08/26/2014 6:34:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Faith Presses On

” if you don’t get the entire truth that John mentions — Holy Tradition. The things that there was no room to write down.”

Please post an Official List of Inspired Traditions. Surely there is such an Official List. Please share it and demonstrate each tradition was in practice during before 100 AD.


202 posted on 08/26/2014 6:53:16 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Salvation
...if you don’t get the entire truth that John mentions — Holy Tradition.


I think Jesus may have mentioned something about TRADITION.

225 posted on 08/27/2014 4:01:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation

Consider these passages from Scripture:

1 Corinthians 2:

1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

And from Philippians 4:

“Be careful (anxious) for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 4:6-7)

We have the mind of Christ, and through our surrender and prayer to Him, we have His guidance, and we have no need to get trapped in anxiety over what happens here if we have put our trust in Him as our Savior.

On what John mentions and “Holy Tradition,” if what we know supported what you say, then I would need to follow that. I trust the Lord to lead me, and whatever is the truth I want to follow, and I also wouldn’t want to oppose God. These aren’t disputes about man’s opinions, but about Truth itself. I’m satisfied that all that I know of the Catholic Church points to that while it pretty much has the true Gospel (Jesus is God’s Son who died for us and was resurrected so that whoever believes in Him will be forgiven for our sins and have eternal life) it has departed from all that’s revealed in God’s Word to the extent that it undermines its grip on the Gospel. For example, it embraces evolution and Genesis as myth, when both the Old and New Testaments contain genealogies which ensure that if you reject the historical nature of the Creation story in Genesis, you have also rejected belief in the whole Bible.


247 posted on 08/27/2014 5:08:10 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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