It's new address is...
Posted on 08/01/2014 7:01:41 AM PDT by Gamecock
What’s that got to do with the topic of the thread, which is the popes *encouragement* which sounds more like Joel Osteen’s power of positive thinking kind of belief system.
And just where is Christ in the pope’s little Joel Osteenism there?
Did he forget to tack Him on as the afterthought He seems to be for most Catholics?
Something about this bothers me and I think I know what it is... "It is ok to express hatred towards CatholicISM on “open” Religion Forum threads. It is never ok to express hatred towards Catholics because some Freepers are Catholic."
Catholicism isn't being attacked there, Catholics are. I've seen a lot of this kind of phrasing and while I usually consider it a way of gaming the system it occurs to me that it violates at least the spirit of the rule. ALTHOUGH, the RM has always (or at least to my knowledge) let that kind of thing go... nevertheless, there it is.
Now that I've mentioned him I suppose I have to ping him (or her).
My argument is that there are "expressions" of hatred being made against Freepers, not merely the beliefs of Freepers. Surely the rule is applicable to more than just a blatant statement of "I hate Catholics" or "I hate Protestants".
"Catholicism is a dirty religion" is an expression of hatred against a belief system while "Catholics are dirty people" is directed against the people themselves, yes? So the original quotation of this post would be ok if it read "Did he forget to tack Him on as the afterthought He seems to be in Catholicism?"
Hate is defined:
1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest:
From where I'm sitting the quoted post expresses hatred toward Catholics rather than Catholicism. At least that's the way it READS.
...and for those who extrapolate the Bible...
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'devine'!
Don't worry; for the spirit of FR is balanced.
Everything you state in this reply is done equally well by CATHOLICS about PROTESTANTS.
But WHY would the pope attack Catholics?
I agree and I think everyone needs to knock it off.
And *all who misquote the Bible* is what exactly?
Directed towards Catholics?
I don’t think so.
It’s working on the presumption of guilt by those who whom it was directed.
Tell me that could not be interpreted as *hate*.
The sword cuts both ways.
Fifteen years ago I couldn't come up with a coherent argument against the SSPX that went much beyond "because I said so". Today I find myself standing against sedevacantism with the same caliber of argument. I believe Francis is the valid bishop of Rome but he's making it very difficult for me to mount a spirited defense on his behalf.
It's new address is...
Opinions can be expressed about a specific group of people.
Especially when it is a quote from the Bible? Baptize all nations?
Not my opinion....I was quoting Jesus’ words.
Is the argument, then , with Jesus?
Please clear up my inability to read common written English.
"It is never ok to express hatred towards Catholics because some Freepers are Catholic." How does that work with "Opinions can be expressed about a specific group of people"?
I provided a dictionary definition of hate "to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest" and I quoted metmom "Did he forget to tack Him on as the afterthought He seems to be for most Catholics?" That is an opinion being expressed about a specific group of people which you say is allowed.
With full apologies to metmom, how is it not, at the same time, an hateful expression toward Catholics? She rightly points out that it happens by "both" "sides". I think it needs to stop. How does the rule have any effect if it's glossed over to allow exactly what it appears to prohibit.
I'm not trying to cause trouble, really I'm not.
All Catholics cannot be put into one bucket.
Likewise, all Baptists or Methodists or Lutherans can be put into one bucket.
We are all individuals, and God will judge us in a likewise just manner.
I feel like I’ve entered the Twilight Zone, what does your post have to do with mine? Please clarify.
Opinions can be expressed about a specific group of people.
??
Or was it the Religion Moderator who said it?
I see a mistake here too.....Likewise, all Baptists or Methodists or Lutherans can can't be put into one bucket.
Your statements do not relate to the post you are replying to.
Should have been to another one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3187706/posts?page=81#81
What the Pope says encompasses all peoples. That was the part I was trying to tie into with “Go forth and baptize all nations.”
My mistake for not responding to the right person/post.
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