Posted on 07/16/2014 4:18:13 AM PDT by NYer
http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/prayer/15promise.htm
2) "I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary." Explanation: Our Lady is our Advocate and the channel of all God's Grace to us. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62) [a great more detail is available on this topic in True Devotion to Mary, chapter four, by St. Louis de Montfort]
RF guidelines prohibit me from stating what this really is. There is only ONE advocate between God and man.
1 John 2:1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
And God's grace is received by faith through Jesus Christ, not Mary.
1 Corinthians 1:4-8 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledgeeven as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among youso that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
The rest of the *promises* are just as bad and can be shown to be just as erroneous as that.
http://campus.udayton.edu/mary/questions/yq2/yq397.html
I read your responses before and am not persuaded that the OSAS proof texts are able to negate the other Scriptures. OSAS, as it is usually taught, is derived from John Calvin. You are not saved by believing you are saved. You are not saved by believing in Calvinism. Believe and obey the LORD Jesus Christ completely, entirely, until he comes again. He has warned us so many times in the Scriptures. Even blessed Paul himself warned. Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
The Greek word Adokimos, that Paul uses to speak of himself if he does not persevere, indicates the lost reprobate believer who turned away from the faith which was once delivered to the saints. For example, They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Check the other usage in the Scripture for yourself. OSAS will always argue that such were never really saved to being with; well, that would apply to you as well and you could not be certain until you reached the end of your race; so I don't think that argument holds up to the other Scriptures; reread the parable of the Sower; many believed but did not persevere. You are not saved by believing you are saved. Believe in the LORD Jesus Christ, now and forever, and you shall be saved. To believe is to obey. Read all the warnings to us from the LORD himself in Revelation. He is not telling us to believe in OSAS, but to watch (ourselves), repent, and obey him (there is that free will again).
The things which John wrote concerning Jesus are true. Believe them, cling to them, and endure until the end.
The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon Strong's Number: 96 Original Word Word Origin ÅAdmivn from (1) (as a negative particle) and (1384) Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Adokimos 2:255,181 Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech ad-ok'-ee-mos Adjective Definition not standing the test, not approved properly used of metals and coins that which does not prove itself such as it ought unfit for, unproved, spurious, reprobate King James Word Usage - Total: 8 reprobate 6, castaway 1, rejected 1
See!
The 'confusion' just OOZES outta the pews!
EVERYBODY body knows it's 30K - or 50K or 80K...
51k!!!
Are you part of the solution?
Just WHO 'elected' THESE guys??
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (13781389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (14921503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (15131521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (15231534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
While Rome says you can't know whether you are 'saved' or not.
This is a Catholic thread?
I don't see it NOW.
I DO 'see' comment #3; apparently TRYING to make it a caucus.
Have Catholics bashed someone else and AUTOMATICALLY gotten it moved to 'religion'?
Can I ask WHY?
Oh??
Just WHAT are you ACCUSING the RM of??
Sounds like a management problem!
Why not have a test every few years, like the BMV does, to make sure that ONLY the partyline gets parroted?
Wrong answers?
Somebody did; and you accept it as Gospel.
You have GOT to learn to use ONLY the ‘data’ that supports your fantasy.
I am a Catholic! What is your point?
You gave me your opinion that I was wrong, posted a bunch of what I suppose is Scripture, but since there were no references nobody unfamiliar with Scripture would know that, and and considered it what?
That you somehow made a point?
OK, so you don’t think all those verses support the security of the believer.
Then perhaps you could enlighten us as to why *sealed* doesn’t really mean *sealed* and why *guarantee* doesn’t really mean *guarantee*.
Then we could get into the righteousness of Christ being imputed, or credited to the account of the believer after he puts his faith in Christ, and how that righteousness becomes the believers in the sight of God and how the righteous requirements of the Law are fulfilled in the believer that way so the believer is considered by God to have fulfilled the Law. Then even if we are judged by our *works* we pass muster because God sees Jesus works of righteousness as ours, credited to our account.
O...
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It was until a couple Catholics tried dragging those bigoted heretics through the mud under the supposed cover and protection of the caucus label. The RM saw through that in a heart beat and removed the label and are now they trying to blameshift and play the martyr and blame it on the RM and those bigoted heretics instead of taking responsibility for it themselves.
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