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Posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
To my Protestant brothers and sisters:
It's time to come back to Mother Church. We want you, we need you, we love you.
I've spent a lot of time in dialogue with activist atheists recently, and the direction we are going is not pretty. We are witnessing a rapid cultural decline into amorality.
Satan seeks the ruin of souls through the destruction of marriage and family, and the quickest route to his goal is the profanation of sex. The truth and meaning of human sexuality is our era's cultural fault line, and unfortunately, Protestant denominations have been tumbling into its widening crevace at an alarming pace.
The first cracks denying the sacred nature of human sexuality began mere decades ago with the first tentative acceptance of contraception by a Christian church (the Anglicans). After 1,900+ years of unbroken Christian teaching on the immorality of contraception (including 400+ years of unbroken Protestant teaching), a moral evil was suddenly declared good. The entirety of Protestantism, although horrified at first, soon followed suit.
"Woe to those who call evil good" -- Isaiah 5:20
Then came other issues -- sterilization, masturbation, abortion, fornication and cohabiting, homosexual activity and homosexual "marriage". One by one, Protestant communities have broken from Christian teaching and sided with the secular culture. Many Protestant communities do not accept all the aforementioned evils as good, of course, and some are making a valiant attempt to fight one or more of them. However, there is no guarantee that those denominations won't eventually accept other sexual sins in the same way they accepted contraception, sterilization and masturbation. A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age -- the Planned Parenthood age.
Look where you are standing. Unless you stand with the Catholic Church, you may already have one foot off the cliff.
How to guarantee that you'll stand firmly on the ground of moral Truth? Come back home to the Catholic Church.
For over two thousand years:
The Catholic Church has never taught that contraception is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that sterilization is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that masturbation is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that abortion is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that fornication is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that homosexual activity is a moral good, and she never will.
The moral teachings of the Church have never changed, and they never will.
Human sexuality is transcendent, life-giving and sacred, and the Catholic Church will teach that Truth till the last day.
Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. Don't be carried about by every wind of social change; come back to the Catholic Church and stand strong with us -- one united Body as Jesus intended.
America may not survive many more generations at the rate we are going, but the Church and her teachings will stand regardless, speaking the same Truths, undisturbed, till the end of time. Believe me, it's a really nice place to be in a storm. Extremely peaceful.
So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.
Come back to Holy Mother Church. It really is time.
I think they thought they were Christians.
But we can't ask them about it anymore, because they were all murdered.
But we CAN ask the Church that murdered them, and what a surprise, it says they weren't Christians and they deserved to be murdered.
Well that settles that.
Actually there was a great deal of information and sources of Christian knowledge before the Church hunted them all down and slaughtered them.
But then, after it killed averyone, it declared them to be heretics and their beliefs to be non-Christian.
So - shazam - there weren't any Christians other than the Church after all.
See? All cleared up.
sure she can....I'm a mere mortal, and with modern computer technology, I could handle that load, as do many more people..Please...we are dealing here with the Mother of God.
Well, that settles it. All one has to do is think they are Christian and by some mystical and magical force they are.
Catharism: But of course all of creation came into being by way of an evil god. Marriage and reproduction are evil. Suicide is good. Sounds like another group we know. The so-called pro-choice Christian. But hey, they made a profession, so we have to assume that they are. Not.
Protestantism is more dangerous that I realized.
And yes, Catharism has been settled. Permanently. Praise be to God!
yup, the Wesley brothers certainly knew more about Christianity than did 1,600 years of Catholic scholars...
They were all murdered for their beliefs. Men, women and children. Over a half-million people chopped, stabbed and burned to death for disagreeing with the Church. An entire culture completely wiped off the face of the Earth - slaughtered.
And you clap your hands with joy and praise God? So you would have taken your sword and plunged it through the chest of a Cathar child and praised God as he died?
You're no Catholic. You just jumped the shark and joined the demons.
it is merely a recitation of biblical text.....you do it by the pagefull and Catholics can't recite 2 sentences?????
of all the stupid things that I've done in my life (Many) saying that you're right isn't one of them...
That's the way things were done back then. I don't excuse the methods but heresy is from the demonic so you better believe I celebrate its demise. These were not Christians as you attempted to allude.
And before you get all self-righteous how many babies have protestants flushed down the drain since Lambeth? Heresy kills.
The reasons and promises for praying the rosary are unbiblical...
The lies are found when testing the promises the catholic church hand out with their rosary beads- at least the ones I received had an instruction manual.
The 15 promises in the how to pray the rosary manual... Her own ‘son’ proved that spirit to be a liar on her very first ‘promise’ when He quoted His Word in Torah when Messiah was tempted by satan..
No lies ever lead to the Truth...
Which should concern people who accept number 14 below..
Protestants should concern themselves with what they do accept as givens with their mother..
All I ever needed to learn about the mother church, I learned from this mary... which scripture proves is a liar.
And protestants should worry about that....because that lying spirit does point to ‘Jesus’ in 14.
1. Whoever shall faithfully SERVE ME (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosa, shall receive signal graces.
2. I promise My special protection and the greatest graces to all who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful in reciting the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plenitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the saints in paradise.
9. I shall deliver from purgatory, those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of Me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the holy Rosary shall be aided by Me in their necessities.
13. I have obtained from My Divine Son, that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors, the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death.
14. All who recite the Rosary are My sons, and brothers of My only son Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion to My Rosary is a great sign of pre-destination.
They thought they were Christians.
And they definitely were human beings.
You are advocating and defending monstrous mass murder in the name of Jesus Christ.
Your opinions are anathema and demonic, by definition.
Go to confession, and get help.
Protestants gave this country abortion on demand. Protestants churches supported abortion, including evangelical Jerry Falwell, all through the 70s, until he jumped on the pro-life issue for political reasons when he founded the Moral Majority in 1979.
It is protestant churches that are allowing homosexual clergy, homosexual “marriage”, women clergy and abortion for any reason.
Now tell me again how “conservative” protestant faiths are again. And please don’t cite a bunch of statistics showing what percentages believe in this and that. So there are catholics that don’t abide by teachings of their faith. I’m shocked. The Catholic Church is the most socially conservative faith in the world. No homo “marriages”, no openly homosexual clergy, no abortion of any kind, and no women clergy. And it will never change because the word of God never changes. It’s just too bad that protestants think the Word of God changes with the times.
Who cares what they thought? Do you accord the following the same consideration:
1.) Those who say they are emulating the love of Christ by "marrying" homosexuals?
2.) Those who consider it their Christian duty to send, "babies back to God"?
3.) Those who consider it their Christian duty to euthanize out of mercy?
You are advocating and defending monstrous mass murder in the name of Jesus Christ.
Apparently we have a comprehension issue. Nowhere did I advocate or defend it. In fact, I said the opposite. But if you want to employ modern liberal historical bias and relativism then perhaps this is not the forum for you.
Go to confession, and get help.
Why would I do that? According to protestants it avails me nothing.
You’re just trying to be inflammatory and divisive. Protestantism has to be taken as a block, none of the millions of pro-life Protestants can be acknowledged, and yet Catholics can be carefully parsed and those who do not fit your description of Catholicism are simply not included in your claims?
Please, this is sheer nonsense and you know it. Why are you doing this? Is it because the Pope just said that the rash of sex abuse scandals is “a leprosy in our home” and admitted that the pedophiles include “priests and even bishops and cardinals. And others, even more numerous, know about it but keep quiet, they punish without saying the reason why. I find this state of things untenable and it is my intention to confront it with the severity it requires”? Is that it?
So should all of Catholicism be judged by these sex predators, the way you would lump together all the different Protestant churches and damn them all for the sake of those who deviate from Jesus’ teachings? If so, then how do you defend Catholics like Pelosi? Shall we get into details, or does this standard simply not matter for Catholics - only for Protestants?
Again, why bother? Even a child can see that differences and failures happen in any human enterprise. Why not just admit that and stop trying to destroy those who have different beliefs? Why is it necessary for Protestantism to fall, in order for Catholicism to live? This is a child’s concept.
It’s time to grow up.
Enough of your brazen lies. In response to a half-million Cathars being murdered, you said, quote: "And yes, Catharism has been settled. Permanently. Praise be to God! ...you better believe I celebrate its demise."
"Settled."
"Demise."
MURDER.
Get thee behind me.
Should we all just pretend the OP didn't say:
Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. .... So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.?
Did Ms. Miller not mean to implicate "Protestants" as lacking in a Christian life and eternity or not being "home" because we aren't Roman Catholics like her? Is she saying we are building our faith upon sand because it is on Christ and not Peter? That sure is the message I got from it and that and worse gets posted right here pretty regularly. Nobody needs to make anything up since the anti-anyone-but us-Catholics make these claims almost on a daily basis.
Here's a clue...don't pity non-Catholic Christians. Don't condescend that we lack the "fullness" of the faith and need to "come home" in order to know Christ in all the ways we can and which He provides. I was raised in your religion, it gave me NO assurance of the truth nor a personal knowledge of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There WAS no peace, joy nor security when I was there. God led me out by showing me His word and the Holy Spirit illuminated the truth of the gospel to my heart. If you have that same assurance where you are, then good, stay there, I'm happy for you. If you cannot present the truth you are so sure of without insulting, mocking and twisting others' words so that you can assert your superiority, then don't bother. You won't be winning any souls over to your cause. You will be nothing but a clanging cymbal.
You're free to leave at any time.
Is heresy from the demonic and does it need to be addressed?
Paul said,
"Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God. Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,d which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears."(Acts 20:26-31)
Should we imagine he left out anything important??? I don't.
I don't think you understand. Your support for the mass murder of a half-million people in the name of Church teachings cancels you out.
As a Catholic, and as a human being.
In the name of those murdered over which you pronounced your joy, in mental and prayerful witness to the sea of their blood, the chopped bodies of their children, and the smell of the charred flesh of the burned families, all of which you praise NOW - not then - as a triumph of Church teachings and obedience to Jesus Christ, I reject you utterly.
And I pray that you are insane. Because if you are not, then you are surely damned.
Who says I supported it? I said I supported the eradication of heresy. Or is heresy merely a difference of opinion with you and as such it should be accorded a hallowed place with the rest of orthodox belief? Like I said: relativism. Which has killed more people throughout the centuries than any other demonic doctrine.
In the name of those murdered over which you pronounced your joy, in mental and prayerful witness to the sea of their blood, the chopped bodies of their children, and the smell of the charred flesh of the burned families, all of which you praise NOW - not then - as a triumph of Church teachings and obedience to Jesus Christ, I reject you utterly.
Do you not celebrate the triumph of good over evil? Do you not rejoice that the Third Reich lays smashed to smithereens under the treads of American tanks and air bombardment? This is just a suggestion but perhaps being on this forum is not conducive to a healthy spirituality on your part.
And I pray that you are insane. Because if you are not, then you are surely damned.
I am neither. And since I confess Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, surely I am not damned and have the promise of ever-lasting life. So protestants tell me.
P.S.: Under what authority do you have to condemn me as excommunicate and anathema?
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