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The Catholic Thing ^ | June 22, 2014 | Kristina Johannes

Posted on 06/22/2014 2:42:07 PM PDT by NYer

A common criticism of the Catholic Church’s teachings on sexual morality has to do with the largely unmarried clergy who are charged with preaching the message.  The accepted wisdom is that celibate males have no business telling married couples how to live their lives: “What do they know about the subject?”  

I remember a particularly egregious example. In 1974, Earl Butz, then U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, ridiculed Pope Paul VI’s opposition to contraception, He no playa the game, he no maka the rules.” He later apologized, but in reality he was only saying publicly what many, including many Catholics, were saying privately.

I’ve never understood this. Jesus, God Incarnate, was a celibate male. Why would any Christian assume that a man striving to emulate Christ in the flesh would have nothing to offer about the nature of love?

Christians agree that God is love.  What they don’t agree on is what should be derived from this fact.

I’ve taught natural family planning for almost twenty years and I consider one of the most important elements of this instruction to be what is conveyed about the nature of love. I always hesitate to use an adjective such as “true” to describe a noun such as “love.” It seems inadvertently to give status to any falsehood parading as truth. 

Love is what it is. Everything else is a pretender and should be described with its own noun. Love is not lust; love is not use; love is not convenience. Love is divine, with all that implies.

St. John Paul II’s pontificate emphasized church teaching about love and its incarnational aspects. From 1981 through 1984, he devoted a whole series of audiences to this subject, which he dubbed “The Theology of the Body.”  These talks were later gathered into a book and became the basis of serious theological reflections

Although continence for the sake of the Kingdom was an important aspect of this teaching, the theology on marriage seemed to get the most focus when it was disseminated and discussed.  Celibacy was initially given short shrift, which is unfortunate, because the fact of the matter is, if you don’t understand or appreciate continence for the sake of the Kingdom, you aren’t going to appreciate or understand the nature of the sacrament of marriage. 


          Pope Paul VI and Cardinal Wojtyla, c.1967

A keystone of St. JPII’s teaching in this matter is found in Gaudium et Spes:

Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, that all may be one. . . as we are one (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of Gods sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. [24] 
This section refers the reader (in a footnote) to Luke 17:33, “Whoever seeks to gain his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will preserve it.”

The essence of love is a willingness to give a sincere gift of self. We only love when we act like God.  God the Son showed us what this means by giving such a complete gift of Self that He emptied Himself, as St. Paul tells us, going all the way to the cross. 

Our life of love is a continuum that starts here on earth and is fulfilled in Heaven.   The crucifixion was completed by the resurrection, when love conquered even death.   Celibacy for the kingdom is the eschatological symbol of love and it has much to teach those of us who are married.

In a 1981 audience, reflecting on Christ’s words about the resurrection of the body found in Mt. 22:30, St. JPII wrote:

The reciprocal gift of oneself to God – a gift in which man will concentrate and express all the energies of his own personal and at the same time psychosomatic subjectivity – will be the response to God’s gift of himself by man, a gift which will become completely and definitively beatifying, as a response worthy of a personal subject to God’s gift of Himself, “virginity,” or rather the virginal state of the body, will be totally manifested as the eschatological fulfillment of the “nuptial” meaning of the body, as the specific sign and the authentic expression of all personal subjectivity.  In this way, therefore, that eschatological situation in which “they neither marry nor are given in marriage” has its solid foundation in the future state of the personal subject, when, as a result of the vision of God “face to face,” there will be born in him a love of such depth and power of concentration on God Himself, as to completely absorb his whole psychosomatic subjectivity.

It is the mutual gift of self that is imaged in conjugal love.  Without denigrating the noble vocation of marriage, it can rightly be said that the couple undertaking marriage can find no better guide to understanding the essential nature of the gift of self than the celibate priest who has emptied himself in imitation of Christ. 

Let’s thank our priests for showing us this most radical example of self-gift.


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To: BipolarBob

Plan B was the Apostles and their anointed successors who preach and teach His Word and His Will to all nations, just as He instructed them.

That those who stray from His flock fall into ever imaginable heresy and evil is easy to see. Unless you choose to be blind.


241 posted on 06/23/2014 5:52:55 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: BipolarBob; narses
Acts The Conversion of the Ethiopian (8:26-40) 26 But an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip saying, “Arise and go south to the road that descends from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is a desert road.)

27 And he arose and went; and behold, there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all her treasure; and he had come to Jerusalem to worship.

28 And he was returning and sitting in his chariot, and was reading the prophet Isaiah.

29 And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go up and join this chariot.” 30 And when Philip had run up, he heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”

31 And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

32 Now the passage of Scripture which he was reading was this: “HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER; AND AS A LAMB BEFORE ITS SHEARER IS SILENT, SO HE DOES NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH.

33”IN HUMILIATION HIS JUDGMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY; WHO SHALL RELATE HIS GENERATION? FOR HIS LIFE IS REMOVED FROM THE EARTH.”

34 And the eunuch answered Philip and said, “Please tell me, of whom does the prophet say this? Of himself, or of someone else?”

35 And Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture he preached Jesus to him.

36 And as they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch said, “Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?”

37 (See marginal note.)

38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing.

40 But Philip found himself at Azotus; and as he passed through he kept preaching the gospel to all the cities, until he came to Caesarea.

242 posted on 06/23/2014 6:12:51 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

By now there are enough churches, Bible Commentaries and books and television shows and internet religion forums that a person who wants to find the Truth should be able to.


243 posted on 06/23/2014 6:46:08 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: FourtySeven; piusv
For help with HTML, there’s the HTML Sandbox thread floating around. I don’t have a link to that directly, but Elsie might.

The two I have are:

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And

HTML Sandbox 2012

244 posted on 06/23/2014 6:58:12 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: verga; piusv; metmom; Elsie
Having said that, did Peter stay with his wife when he followed Jesus?

It is also possible that she died sometime before Peter was following Jesus. The gospels never mention her, just the Mother in law. No one can for certain one way or the other.

I think that what we CAN know for certain is that Peter did not desert his wife or divorce her in order to follow Jesus. That would have been against Christ's leading and would have contradicted what was taught in the epistles from Paul and Peter. Also, Paul spoke about the subject of taking a wife and the freedom Christ's followers have here:

Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? (I Cor. 9:5)

245 posted on 06/23/2014 7:11:59 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Salvation
Do you consider being mocked and laughed at because you misspelled a word or use the wrong one in a comment on the FR Religion Forum is the SAME thing as being reviled and persecuted falsely for the sake of Jesus Christ??? Please think that one through.
246 posted on 06/23/2014 7:23:57 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: NYer; BipolarBob; Mr Rogers
Scripture mentions Peter's mother in law; hence, he had a wife. However, she is nowhere mentioned. I find this strange. Imagine the scene. There is the mother-in-law, lying in bed. At her side, as one would expect, is her dutiful daughter—except that Matthew and Luke make no reference to her daughter. Leaving her out of the story is strange. It is not the way a writer would be expected to handle the incident, since a daughter usually is the one most frantic about a mother’s condition. The story is tantalizingly brief. Maybe the Evangelists decided to leave out all but the most salient facts. Or maybe it was because Peter’s wife wasn’t there—she already may have died. I think this is the most likely explanation for her non-appearance.

1 Corinthians 9:3-5 This is my defense to those who would examine me. Do we not have the right to eat and drink? Do we not have the right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?

Peter took along his believing wife with him as he ministered.

So much for your Bible knowledge.

247 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: verga; Salvation
Well, yes, Sal WAS the first to get her little grammar Nazi dig in, but you added the juvenile, snide aside about home schooling, so you both equally deserved the rant.
248 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:50 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Elsie

LOL!


249 posted on 06/23/2014 7:30:23 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

Poor ‘bums, picked on so badly. Time to run back to your deck shoes and yachting parties sweetie, places where your wit (such as it is) is appreciated.

Truly, is it ALWAYS about you in your world?


250 posted on 06/23/2014 7:30:33 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: BipolarBob

“By now there are enough churches, Bible Commentaries and books and television shows and internet religion forums that a person who wants to find the Truth should be able to.”

Every flavor, every color of the rainbow.

But only ONE true Church that Our Lord gifted us with - one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church where His Word rules, and has from the first day and will until the last.


251 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:02 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: boatbums; verga

I’ve never even seen any evidence that verga even grammar or spell checks his OWN posts.

I guess Catholics do get a pass.

Hmmm, a double standard.

That’s called *hypocrisy* IIRC.


252 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

253 posted on 06/23/2014 7:37:47 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses
- one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church where His Word rules, and has from the first day and will until the last.

Tell me more of that "first day" you speak of. Jesus was a Jew. The institution which morphed into what we now call Catholicism was well after the last Apostle expired. That "first day" is somewhat shrouded in mystery, is it not?

254 posted on 06/23/2014 7:38:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: verga
Well in a day or so she will be on the homescrewling (intentional misspelling) saying that you don't need a teaching degree to be able to teach.

A teaching degree?

You mean the *dummy degree* as it was called as far back as the 70's when I was attending college?

255 posted on 06/23/2014 7:38:56 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: BipolarBob

256 posted on 06/23/2014 7:39:57 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: JPX2011

So what?

We bow to Allah to win muslims????????

Do you really think that’s what Paul meant by that passage?

YOU guys can do that and enjoy the fun when they finish up what they didn’t during the crusades and they are whacking your heads off and making your women wear burkas.

Me? I bow to no one but Jesus.


257 posted on 06/23/2014 7:42:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: JPX2011

If you’re willing to bow to islam to try to win muslims, the gates of hell have finished prevailing against the Catholic church.

You guys are toast.

All that’s left is the mopping up.


258 posted on 06/23/2014 7:43:08 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: narses; boatbums

Jealousy raises its ugly head.


259 posted on 06/23/2014 7:44:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: narses

We know you are. You’ve told us often enough.

You don’t need to keep reminding us.


260 posted on 06/23/2014 7:45:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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