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Francis blessed by Archbishop of Canterbury
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2014/06/francis-bows-his-head-to-receive.html ^

Posted on 06/21/2014 5:38:39 AM PDT by piusv

It is not remotely surprising that the Archbishop of Canterbury should desire to bless the Pope of Rome, but the humble attitude of His Holiness in accepting it has caused something of a stir among Roman Catholic traditionalists:

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To: ebb tide

“How charitable of you.”

I don’t confuse charity with “being nice”. You shouldn’t either.


101 posted on 06/21/2014 4:57:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Legatus; All

I think what people need to ask themselves is whether Pope Leo XIII would have allowed himself to be blessed in such a way.


102 posted on 06/21/2014 5:12:08 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
"whether Pope Leo XIII would have allowed himself to be blessed in such a way."

Anyone who says yes is a loony. Beyond that I have to keep this secret from my children because they would be scandalized... and outraged.

103 posted on 06/21/2014 5:17:54 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: vladimir998

You’re problems are with the Church’s canon laws and the Catholic Encyclopedia (I’ve quoted both), not with me. But then again, all protestants have problems with the Catholic Church’s canons.


104 posted on 06/21/2014 5:18:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: piusv

Is that still the head Druid?


105 posted on 06/21/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: ebb tide

The thing is Francis apparently has problems with Catholic teaching too. It’s no wonder. He’s Vatican II personified.


106 posted on 06/21/2014 5:26:34 PM PDT by piusv
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To: vladimir998; All
Funny you should mention Anglicanorum coetibus. From the very next section (after the last bit I posted that was widely ignored) of the original article we find:

And you haven't heard him talk much about the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham or the provisions of the Apostolic Constitution 'Anglicanorum coetibus' of Pope Benedict XVI, have you?

For many Roman Catholic traditionalists, this is one hell of an ecumenical mess, sending out confusing messages about the Faith, the (Roman) Catholic Church and the uniqueness of ministry of the Vicar of Christ. They may think this a false expression of showman humility — a theatrical performance; a patronising gesture of genuine compassion but counterfeit ecclesiology. But His Grace detects a spiritual, doctrinal and moral shift in ecumenical relations. Pope Francis is more Anglican than many believe, or would find it possible to admit.

Before anyone goes any nuttier, the author of the article is apparently a member of the CofE and NOT a Catholic. So no matter his intention the pope is causing confusion.

107 posted on 06/21/2014 5:36:00 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: vladimir998
I don’t confuse charity with “being nice”.

I disagree. I think you're confused about many things, especially Catholic matters.

108 posted on 06/21/2014 5:41:51 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Legatus
Anyone who says yes is a loony. Beyond that I have to keep this secret from my children because they would be scandalized... and outraged.

(1) Not loony, but ignorant of Traditional Catholic teaching. Some are intentionally so; others not.

(2) Funny how the kids get it.

109 posted on 06/21/2014 5:58:15 PM PDT by piusv
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(2) Funny how the kids get it.

Here, let's try an experiment: I just asked my 13 year old daughter how she'd respond to the pope being blessed by the archbishop of Canterbury. She said "I'd probably vomit, why, is this true? where's the bin, that's so stupid." I didn't guide her reaction by my question either.

110 posted on 06/21/2014 6:11:11 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: piusv

Wow, Protestants are fast running out of people they can count on.


111 posted on 06/21/2014 6:24:11 PM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: ebb tide
P.S. In the good ol’ days, when bishops and Popes make public blessings, they made the visible sign of the Cross, something Francis seemed ashamed to do for fear of offending non-Catholics and non-believers.

Yes, this was the blessing he made "silently".

Those same popes also didn't accept blessings from heretics. I guess they weren't humble enough.

112 posted on 06/21/2014 6:34:07 PM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

No replies to your post 89?

Of course not.


113 posted on 06/21/2014 6:49:54 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Legatus

” So no matter his intention the pope is causing confusion.”

I’m not confused so apparently the problem is you.


115 posted on 06/21/2014 6:51:26 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ebb tide

“I disagree. I think...”

Apparently you don’t. Not much at least.


116 posted on 06/21/2014 6:52:22 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
I’m not Protestant.

R-I-G-H-T; I don't believe you.

As I've said before your problems are with the Catholic Church, not me. If you have complaints about Catholic canons or the Catholic Encyclopedia, take it up with Rome.

If you really are Catholic, you need some serious catechesis. In that case, don't turn to Rome but look for a traditional priest, e.g. FSSP.

117 posted on 06/21/2014 6:59:29 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: vladimir998
I’m not confused...

Of course you aren't, I haven't heard of any protestant complaining about a Catholic pope seeking a public blessing from one of their own. They love it.

It seems that only a few traditional Catholics are upset by this stunt.

Again from the Council of Laodicea:

Canon 32

>>It is unlawful to receive the “blessings” of heretics, for they are rather “follies” than “blessings”. .<<

Once again, your problem is with the Catholic Church. Good luck in your catechesis!

119 posted on 06/21/2014 7:26:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: piusv

>>No replies to your post 89?<<

Yes, there have been no replies. Typical of Cafeteria Catholics/Protestants.


120 posted on 06/21/2014 8:18:40 PM PDT by ebb tide
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