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More Mormons facing church scrutiny for online comments
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | June 19, 2014 | LAURIE GOODSTEI

Posted on 06/20/2014 2:37:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

....From California to Virginia and states in between, more than a dozen Mormons interviewed in the past week said they had recently been informed by their bishops that they faced excommunication or risked losing permission to enter a temple because of comments they had made online about their faith, the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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"When it goes so far as creating organized groups, staging public events to further a cause, and creating literature for members to share in their local congregations," Otterson said, "the church has to protect the integrity of its doctrine as well as other members from being misled."

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: censorship; inman; lds
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To: ravenwolf; greyfoxx39

The bible also teaches AGAINST Homosexuality and FOR asking questions and studying it. This isn’t Christian behavior it is cult behavior.


61 posted on 06/21/2014 5:05:10 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: robowombat

The rank and file LDS are also much nicer and less crazy than Scientologists who seem to be pure evil and robotic.//

No LDS has more than their fair share of evil and robotic, they just try not to let outsiders see it - the goal of APPEARING nice (and they do use the term appear) is to get you interested in joining - nothing else.

Mormonism is a lot like the first stepford wives movie.


62 posted on 06/21/2014 5:07:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Fuzz

“No religion likes too many questions.”

Including atheism.

;^)


63 posted on 06/21/2014 5:14:51 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: greyfoxx39
The punishment for this kind of expose of mormon doctrine is the withholding of "temple recommends" that allow members to take part in arcane rituals that in mormon belief are necessary for salvation.

Well, they could just join the Free Masons.

64 posted on 06/21/2014 5:24:23 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: reaganaut

The bible also teaches AGAINST Homosexuality and FOR asking questions and studying it. This isn’t Christian behavior it is cult behavior.


I agree, it is something that is a shame even to speak about.


65 posted on 06/21/2014 5:59:00 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: reaganaut

What a shame. Sounds so familiar with other churches.


66 posted on 06/21/2014 7:26:44 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: reaganaut
That could be. Their theology is absurd but it has worked remarkably well. The LDS I worked with in California (Sacramento) were good people and hard working and they were not backstabbers unlike a number of the ‘Gentile’ employees. Conversations about their faith were uniformly interesting and non-threatening. I gave one fellow a copy of ‘The Burt Over District’ just to give him some context on the area where Mormonism emerged. He later said it was fascinating but was faith shaking because of the way it approached history as multicausal not events repeated as a story. I told him most historical events were events retold as stories and that distorted most of the way we saw the past. That was the sort of exchanges I had. The Scientology types who I had two encounters with struck me as bright but crazy. Devotees of some psychological control system masquerading as a religion. They were very disturbing.
67 posted on 06/21/2014 8:08:43 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Dallas59
No man or men, dead or alive, can give me salvation nor take it away.

they can however guide you to the proper path to salvation (It's not islam)

68 posted on 06/21/2014 8:15:30 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Norm Lenhart

yeeHAW!


69 posted on 06/22/2014 4:53:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fuzz
No religion likes too many questions.

I question this assertion.

70 posted on 06/22/2014 4:53:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
Exactly Jim. It has been proven that they lie (called lying for the Lord), obfuscate, cover-up and dissemble things about their history and doctrine over and over again. And when you point out the problems, you are excommunicated.

HAter!

THIS is how we teach our future missionaries!!


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


71 posted on 06/22/2014 4:55:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
God Bless you; RESTORNU; wherever you are!


72 posted on 06/22/2014 4:56:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle...
 
 
Oh?
 
 
The BIGGEST battle EVER recorded; and not ONE even teeny bit of evidence of it can be found!!
 
 


The Book of Ether

Chapter 15

Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle—Shiz and Coriantumr assemble all the people to mortal combat—The Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with them—The Jaredite nation is utterly destroyed—Only Coriantumr remains.

 And it came to pass when Coriantumr had recovered of his wounds, he began to remember the awords which Ether had spoken unto him.

 He saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly atwo millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.

 He began to repent of the evil which he had done; he began to remember the words which had been spoken by the mouth of all the prophets, and he saw them that they were fulfilled thus far, every whit; and his soul amourned and refused to be bcomforted.

 And it came to pass that he wrote an epistle unto Shiz, desiring him that he would spare the people, and he would give up the kingdom for the sake of the lives of the people.

 And it came to pass that when Shiz had received his epistle he wrote an epistle unto Coriantumr, that if he would give himself up, that he might slay him with his own sword, that he would spare the lives of the people.

 And it came to pass that the people repented not of their iniquity; and the people of Coriantumr were stirred up to anger against the people of Shiz; and the people of Shiz were stirred up to anger against the people of Coriantumr; wherefore, the people of Shiz did give battle unto the people of Coriantumr.

 And when Coriantumr saw that he was about to fall he fled again before the people of Shiz.

 And it came to pass that he came to the waters of Ripliancum, which, by interpretation, is large, or to exceed all; wherefore, when they came to these waters they pitched their tents; and Shiz also pitched his tents near unto them; and therefore on the morrow they did come to battle.

 And it came to pass that they fought an exceedingly sore battle, in which Coriantumr was wounded again, and he fainted with the loss of blood.

 10 And it came to pass that the armies of Coriantumr did press upon the armies of Shiz that they beat them, that they caused them to flee before them; and they did flee southward, and did pitch their tents in a place which was called Ogath.

 11 And it came to pass that the army of Coriantumr did pitch their tents by the hill Ramah; and it was that same hill where my father Mormon did ahide up the records unto the Lord, which were sacred.

 12 And it came to pass that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.

 13 And it came to pass that Ether did abehold all the doings of the people; and he beheld that the people who were for Coriantumr were gathered together to the army of Coriantumr; and the people who were for Shiz were gathered together to the army of Shiz.

 14 Wherefore, they were for the space of four years gathering together the people, that they might get all who were upon the face of the land, and that they might receive all the strength which it was possible that they could receive.

 15 And it came to pass that when they were all gathered together, every one to the army which he would, with their wives and their children—both men, women and children being armed with aweapons of war, having shields, and bbreastplates, and head-plates, and being clothed after the manner of war—they did march forth one against another to battle; and they fought all that day, and conquered not.

 16 And it came to pass that when it was night they were weary, and retired to their camps; and after they had retired to their camps they took up a howling and a alamentation for the loss of the slain of their people; and so great were their cries, their howlings and lamentations, that they did rend the air exceedingly.

 17 And it came to pass that on the morrow they did go again to battle, and great and terrible was that day; nevertheless, they conquered not, and when the night came again they did rend the air with their cries, and their howlings, and their mournings, for the loss of the slain of their people.

 18 And it came to pass that Coriantumr wrote again an epistle unto Shiz, desiring that he would not come again to battle, but that he would take the kingdom, and spare the lives of the people.

 19 But behold, the aSpirit of the Lord had ceased striving with them, and bSatan had full power over the chearts of the people; for they were given up unto the hardness of their hearts, and the blindness of their minds that they might be destroyed; wherefore they went again to battle.

 20 And it came to pass that they fought all that day, and when the night came they slept upon their swords.

 21 And on the morrow they fought even until the night came.

 22 And when the night came they were adrunken with anger, even as a man who is drunken with wine; and they slept again upon their swords.

 23 And on the morrow they fought again; and when the night came they had all fallen by the sword save it were fifty and two of the people of Coriantumr, and sixty and nine of the people of Shiz.

 24 And it came to pass that they slept upon their swords that night, and on the morrow they fought again, and they contended in their might with their swords and with their shields, all that day.

 25 And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.

 26 And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.

 27 And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.

 28 And it came to pass that when the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.

 29 Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had aall fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.

 30 And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.

 31 And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and afell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.

 32 And it came to pass that aCoriantumr fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.

 33 And the Lord spake unto Ether, and said unto him: Go forth. And he went forth, and beheld that the words of the Lord had all been fulfilled; and he afinished his brecord; (and the chundredth part I have not written) and he hid them in a manner that the people of Limhi did find them.

 34 Now the last words which are written by aEther are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am bsaved in the kingdom of God. Amen.

 

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15

 

 


73 posted on 06/22/2014 4:57:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut

No LDS has more than their fair share of evil and robotic, they just try not to let outsiders see it...

I’ve heard of things like this...

http://www.standard.net/Courts/2014/06/19/Kaysville-man-wanted-for-alleged-major-Ponzi-scheme.html


74 posted on 06/22/2014 4:59:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
Mormonism is a lot like the first stepford wives movie.

No muffins for YOU!!



75 posted on 06/22/2014 5:01:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: robowombat
Their theology is absurd but it has worked remarkably well.

Worked?

I'm baffled.

It won't WORK to get anyone into GOD's presence when they die.

76 posted on 06/22/2014 5:02:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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