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500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary
Catholic Analysis ^ | 7 June 2014 | Philipp Rogall

Posted on 06/08/2014 1:59:17 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson

In 2017, we will witness the 500th anniversary of one of the most important, influential and regrettable events in Church history: the Protestant Reformation, or the Protestant Rebellion, as some prefer to call it. Indeed, the latter term would suit me better, too. But, being German, I am used to the former expression and should I ever refer to said event as die protestantische Rebellion, people would think me some sort of radical. On that thought, perhaps it is worth noting that rebels are often quite radical themselves, which is one thing we can definitely say of the so-called "Reformers". To mark this anniversary, the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) has planned a number of events, beginning with a "Lutheran Decade" from 2008 to 2017. Each year has it’s own theme in the form of "The Reformation and…", i.e. Education, Freedom, Music, Tolerance, Politics and others.

The decade will culminate in the celebratory year of 2017, to which the President of the Evangelical "Church" in Germany (EKD), Nikolaus Schneider, has even invited Pope Francis. But, really, how likely is it His Holiness will hop on a plane and join in the celebration of someone his predecessor excommunicated? One might ask, is there any room for Catholics to take part in some sort of event? This is the question that is circulating in the mother country of the Reformation: Germany. The Most Reverend Gerhard Feige, Bishop of Magdeburg, is the Bishops' Conference's representative for ecumenical affairs. He has dedicated a lot of thought and time to the question how Catholics should view this event.

It begins with the name: Do we call it an anniversary, something that could imply happiness, or a commemoration of an event that has wrought such great damage upon the Body of Christ, His holy Bride, the Catholic Church? The German bishops have chosen the latter term. There is still confusion on the whole thing, though: The EKD is not being very clear on what exactly they want to celebrate. One hears catchy words such as "diversity", "conscience", and the like stuck onto the Reformation in their talk, but never do we hear of heresy, schism or even the antisemitism of Luther and his ilk. Indeed, who in his right mind would celebrate the chaos and harm inflicted on the Church by the so-called "Reformers"? Not even the Protestants organizing the event dare to say thus. Yet, one gets the impression that the whole event is not actually interested in critically evaluating the past, or their theology for that matter, but rather praising it as the dawn of an era of "tolerance" and "liberty".

Could this be any further from the truth? Professor Heinz Schilling of Berlin, a member of the advisory board for the anniversary, stated in an interview that Luther was "everything but tolerant" and criticized the EKD as "quite understandably not interested in any of the research’s findings". He went even further and said that the organizers made themselves appear "laughable among scholars" by claiming what they do. Margot Käßmann, who is the anniversary’s ambassador and a former Lutheran "bishop", once claimed that it was thanks to Luther that her sect had female "bishops". The professor criticizes this as yet another inaccuracy and something that Luther certainly did not envision. Is it any wonder, then, that the EKD has not come out clearly and said what the entire occasion is about for them, as the bishops have repeatedly bewailed, if even their own board members see through their catchy slogans?

What about us Catholics? Is there any way in which we can join our separated brethren in their commemoration? I argue: no. Some will disagree, but to me, the Reformation is intrinsically connected to fracture in the Body of Christ, heresy and the resulting total chaos. I could never join any such "commemoration", even if one doesn't call it an "anniversary" for the sake of appeasing Catholics. When have we ever "commemorated" the schism of 1054, or any heresy, for that matter? I believe we would do great harm to the effort of achieving Christian unity by taking part in any way. It obscures the borders between Catholicism and Protestantism, confuses people, and may even cause scandal.

The aforementioned Margot Käßmann suggested the following kind of participation of Catholics and Protestants: Each group could begin a pilgrimage on their own route, and reach one common destination. She would also like the program to achieve that all people learn "that 31 October is Reformation Day and not Halloween", to which Bishop Feige of Magdeburg replied "and the eve of All Saints". But the problem I see with Käßmann’s proposal is this: Although the idea might seem nice, it suggests that Protestantism and Catholicism are somehow equals. They most definitely are not. And certainly not according to Luther himself! Catholics know that their Church is the Church Christ the Lord founded on St. Peter, and Protestantism's very name already suggests otherwise. The Reformers made that point very clear. From a Catholic point of view, a heretical movement that splits the Church cannot be of equal worth as the One True Faith. Just think how we would have fought Arianism if such had been our position! This is not to say that Protestants aren't Christians, of course, but we must realize that Protestantism is not what our Lord willed us to have or believe: Catholicism is. Thus, two equal pilgrimages reaching one destination à la Käßmann would cause scandal and confusion. I assume she does not want it to symbolize the way we might some day find unity, but rather the common destination means Christ. But that is precisely the point: The Catholic Church is the ark of salvation, the Body and Bride of Christ, and She alone has "the words of eternal life" (John 6:68). She is Christ in this world apart from Whom "no one comes to the Father" (John 14:6). Protestantism has distorted those words of eternal life fundamentally, and thus cannot be on equal footing with Holy Mother Church. If Christ is "the Way, the Truth and the Life" apart from Whom there is no salvation, then so is the Catholic Church, for She is His Body (Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:24).

Thus, let me emphasize again: Celebrating the Reformation, or even commemorating it with Protestants, will blur the sharp line between the One True Church and those communities that came from the Protestant Reformation. It will scandalize and, actually, almost certainly make Christian unity harder to achieve. For in pretending Protestantism is somehow equally valid or of the same dignity as Catholicism, we take away the very reason for Christian unity: to be united in the one Church that our Lord left us, founded on Peter in the person of the Roman Pontiff.

Therefore, I hope the German bishops decide not to participate – however unlikely that is. It remains to be seen whether the ecumenical progress in achieving unity hoped for will come about. Let us pray, that 2017 will bring to many people's attention the Truth of Catholicism and the scandal that the separation of Christians is, fostering in them the desire for unity with Christ in His Bride, which is Holy Church.

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To: cripplecreek

Bump


101 posted on 06/08/2014 4:08:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: matthewrobertolson
If Christ is "the Way, the Truth and the Life" apart from Whom there is no salvation, then so is the Catholic Church, for She is His Body (Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:24).

Kind of sad really...At one point in history they would hold a sword to your throat and let you chose to become Catholic, or die...

Now, they have to resort to falsely claiming God's glory for themselves to appeal to your ignorance of God...

102 posted on 06/08/2014 4:10:41 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: what's up
Look up what the Church teaches on "full communion", "ecclesial communities", "latae sententiae excommunication", etc., if you wish to understand what it means when Catholics talk about being "in the Church"
103 posted on 06/08/2014 4:12:08 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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To: Iscool

104 posted on 06/08/2014 4:13:04 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: CodeToad

He and a few others do this all day

They are like neoyankees disparaging the south with all the anti nonCatholic stuff

The ignorance in lumping all protestants together is like Paul Gigot today saying Mississippi is in play if Cochran loses nomination

Some folks blather with no ground knowledge


105 posted on 06/08/2014 4:13:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: boatbums
This is not to say that Protestants aren't Christians, of course, but we must realize that Protestantism is not what our Lord willed us to have or believe: Catholicism is.

Last time I checked Christ willed that we believe in Him and Him alone....not a church. But a Savior.

106 posted on 06/08/2014 4:15:05 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: narses
Sinners all. And yet the Church does NOT teach those things ‘bums, and you certainly ought to know that. So what is your point?

The "point" is that calling oneself or being a member of the Roman Catholic church is no guarantee that one is saved and a true part of the body of Christ. Insisting that the Roman Catholic church is the ONE, TRUE church Jesus established is contradicted by the fact that not all who are "Catholic" are saved. The body of Christ, His bride, on the other hand, IS comprised of ONLY born again believers. You certainly ought to know that.

Like Peter said:

As you come to him, the living Stone — rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him — you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. (I Peter 2:4,5)

107 posted on 06/08/2014 4:15:25 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: wardaddy

All day?


108 posted on 06/08/2014 4:15:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ravenwolf

Yeah, right, please explain timeline.

Protestants don’t worship Mary.

They don’t have a human on Earth who is said by the RCC to be infallible and God’s man on Earth.

Protestants don’t allow the purchases of indulgences as a way of mitigating a sin.

Protestants don’t worship saints even though every believer is a Saint, I’m talking about canonized saints.

I was baptized a Catholic but that was it.

I seem to recall Jesus mentioning eating of his body, broken for us (a metaphor) and drinking his blood (another metaphor) for the blood shed on our behalf. Yet Catholics only distribute the host, the priest gets the wine. Now, an argument could be made that providing even a sip of wine to their congregants could be rather expensive. Of course the Vatican could sell of their billions in dollars of art and artifacts, they could also help the poor this way but they are greedy leading me to once more think the RCC is the whore in Revelations.

People I know who were Catholics all said the same thing, they never read the Bible or were encouraged to read it on their own, why. I recently read an RCC apologist that they read the Bible all the time but I know 4 ex-Catholics who have said they never read the Bible during the service.
Oh yeah, one more thing, so, if a 1 day old baby dies, it goes to purgatory or hell because it didn’t get Baptized. That makes sense, if your Satan.


109 posted on 06/08/2014 4:17:49 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: boatbums

110 posted on 06/08/2014 4:19:07 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: terycarl

I see you failed Bible class.


111 posted on 06/08/2014 4:19:37 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Lx

“Yet Catholics only distribute the host, the priest gets the wine.”

Really? How clueless are you?


112 posted on 06/08/2014 4:19:53 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Salvation

That must be why there is a shrine to Mary everywhere in Italy and Mexico.


113 posted on 06/08/2014 4:21:12 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: CynicalBear

Logic is obviously not your strong suit.


114 posted on 06/08/2014 4:22:05 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Lx

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


115 posted on 06/08/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: matthewrobertolson

No thanks. Not interested in catholic teaching.


116 posted on 06/08/2014 4:23:56 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: PapaBear3625
How many different Protestant sects are there, each with their own interpretation of what Scripture really means?

Probably less than 12...

117 posted on 06/08/2014 4:26:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: boatbums; narses
"Insisting that the Roman Catholic church is the ONE, TRUE church Jesus established is contradicted by the fact that not all who are "Catholic" are saved." - boatbums

No, it's not. By baptism, Protestants are in a (broken) communion with the Church.

Like I told what's up: Look up what the Church teaches on "full communion", "ecclesial communities", "latae sententiae excommunication", etc., if you wish to understand what it means when Catholics talk about being "in the Church".
118 posted on 06/08/2014 4:27:06 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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To: what's up
....And yet, you have no problem commenting on it.....

Typical liberal.
119 posted on 06/08/2014 4:28:46 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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