Protestants Need to Convert (and Bad Catholics need to Revert)

http://catholicism.org ^ | November 5, 2013 | Brother Andre Marie

[NKP_Vet]

Controversial, yes, but true. Otherwise, we don’t believe in Church dogma or the reality of the sin of heresy.

Michael Voris makes some good points in this video. To the line “we don’t talk about religion and politics here,” he has added a third forbidden subject, sex. Regarding the older form of that yarn, Brother Francis once made an innocently humorous response to someone while he was out doing our work on the streets. A man said to him, “There are two things, we don’t talk about here!”

To which Brother responded, with a slightly feigned naïveté, “Really? What are those?”

“Religion and Politics!” responded the man.

And Brother said, “What’s wrong with politics?”

[lastchance]

So I should not put your name on the RCIA list then?

[Secret Agent Man]

these such articles aren’t posted for honest discussion, but only to stir up trouble and discord among the bretheren. to elevate and push down, and balkanize.

[shankbear]

Salvation is only available through Christ. Not through the RCC. Not through a priest or even a Pope. Forget their dogma.

[shankbear]

And boy buggery came from all the deviant proests.

[verga]

The Body, Blood, soul, and Divinity, of Jesus in the Eucharist.

[Cvengr]

The reason why many don’t answer His call is that their Mind in their soul has been scarred to think in worldly or fleshly terms. For example, instead of recognizing God the Father has addressed them in His call, they think rationally in their minds about the Gospel, and think He has given a religious group authority over other believers.

[Bulwyf]

You are correct, do you know how I know? The Bible tells me so.

[Secret Agent Man]

we know sometimes why.

it would make them change how they are living, and they are having a good time.

they would rather believe in what they consider a more fair or reasonable afterlife is, tham what God’sWord says.

personal tragedy/effects of sin in their lives gives them rationale to believe a loving God wouldn’t allow ‘x’ or ‘y’ to happen to ‘good’ people.

[gusty]

If we Prods are so terrible, why do you use a Protestant’s quote in your tagline. How dare you use the quote of a heretic. Since you continue your obnoxious ways, I will end with a song from the homeland of the Pattons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDkjrJK5PHk

[impimp]

Only if you consider Christ as Christ’s body, which includes the Church, can you say that Christ is the one mediator between God and man. A strict/literal interpretation that Christ is the only mediator between man and God means that we should throw St. Paul’s letters in the garbage.

[Mark17]

http://bound4life.com/history-of-contraception-in-the-protestant-church/ "......by the 1960s and 1970s, virtually all Protestant churches—in America as in Europe—embraced contraception and (somewhat less frequently) abortion as compatible with Christian ethics. Pope Paul VI’s courageous opposition to these acts in the 1968 encyclical, Humanae Vitae, won broad condemnation from Protestant leaders as an attempt to impose “Catholic views” on the world. Even leaders of “conservative” denominations such as the Southern Baptist Convention would welcome as “a blow for Christian liberty” the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that legalized abortion as a free choice during the first six months (and in practice for all nine months) of a pregnancy. Not a single significant Protestant voice raised opposition in the 1960′s and early 1970′s to the massive entry of the U.S. government into the promotion and distribution of contraceptives, nationally and worldwide.

OK, that was a more reasonable post. Let me say this. As far as birth control, I believe that is a individual decision, based on Christian liberty. About that, I believe it is the motive one should be concerned with. I think people can do the right thing, with the wrong motive, and still not please the Lord. Now, there are quite a few of what some would call the mainline protestant denominations, that are in full apostasy, and I am sure many of them are exactly what you describe. I don't make any excuses for them. They will sink or swim on their own. Abortion, on the other hand, is a whole different thing. It stops a beating heart. I have attended some good Southern Baptist churches in Texas, Germany, as well as Calvary Chapel, and some good Fil/Am churches in California and Hope Mountain Fellowship in Davao City. Although there may be an individual or two here and there, who think differently, I have never personally met one who is pro abortion, again, not even considering many of the apostate mainline denominations. I just do not lump them all together, because many of them might have beliefs that I would consider totally foreign to mainstream evangelicals.

Later bro, I am off to Shu Mart, for lunch and the air con.

[Eccl 10:2]

Uhhh, no.

While I concede there are a few saved Catholics, they are by far the exception rather than the rule. By far. The Catholic Church is SO wrong on SO many important points.

And there are also a whole lot of “Protestants” in weak churches that are in a lot of trouble when their turn is called. But the true, Bible-believing, God-fearing evangelical Protestants have it right, and everyone else is going to really struggle.

[Hoodat]

I get that already although I call it 'communion'. However, I believe God is more interested in what comes out of my heart rather than some ritual I perform.

So again, what does the Catholic church have to offer that I do not have already?

[Free Vulcan]

Christ founded the Catholic church, He did not found the Roman Catholic church. Do not forget that there was also the Coptic, Orthodox, Syriac, and the now defunct Jerusalem church.

Of note, both the Coptic and Syriac churches predated the Roman church, and certainly while the Eastern Roman Empire existed (till the mid-1400’s) they definitely did NOT accept the Roman catholic church as their superior. To this day neither the Orthodox, Coptic, or eastern Syriac is in full communion with the Roman Catholic.

So, the attacks on Protestants are a little bit over the top, considering that it is but one of several divisions within the Christian church.

[Free Vulcan]

Neither do the Mormons, do you consider them to be OK with the Roman Catholic church?

[Salvation]

Ukrainian (Catholic) Church an example of 'synodality' for Pope
Traditional Rites in Union Now with the Catholic Church
Catholic conservatives: A traditionalist avant-garde
The Rites of the Catholic Church [Catholic Caucus]
One and Many Churches (origins of the Church)
THE RITES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH -- There are many!
(Cardinal) Newman on Rites and Ceremonies

[Salvation]

**He did not found the Roman Catholic church**

When did I say that?

[af_vet_1981]

Let me say this. As far as birth control, I believe that is a individual decision, based on Christian liberty. About that, I believe it is the motive one should be concerned with. I think people can do the right thing, with the wrong motive, and still not please the Lord.

Moral relativism always seems an easier road to follow but it is the false road.

The early Christian community upheld the sanctity of marriage, marital love and human life. In the New Testament, the word "pharmakeia" appears, which some scholars link to the birth control issue. "Pharmakeia" denotes the mixing of potions for secretive purposes, and from Soranos and others, evidence exists of artificial birth control potions. Interestingly, "Pharmakeia" is sometimes translated as "sorcery?" in English. In three passages in which "pharmakeia" appears, other sexual sins are also condemned: lewd conduct, impurity, licentiousness, orgies "and the like" (e.g. Gal 5:19-21). This evidence highlights that the early Church condemned anything which violated the integrity of marital love. Further evidence is found in the Didache, also called the Teachings of the Twelve Apostles, written about the year 80 A.D. This book was the Church's first manual of morals, liturgical norms and doctrine. In the first section? two ways are proposed: the way of life and the way of death. In following the way of life, the exhorts, "You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure abortion, nor destroy a new-born child. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods...." Again, scholars link such phrases as "practice magic" and "use potions" with artificial birth control. In all, the Catholic Church as well as other Christian denominations condemned the use of artificial birth control until the 20th century. The first Christian denomination to approve artificial birth control was the Church of England, or the Episcopalian Church.

[Free Vulcan]

That’s a nice chart, but it gives the impression that the RCC is in agreement with the other branches of the Church. Nothing could be further from the truth. For them to rail against Protestants seems a little disingenuous since the RCC doesn’t doctrinally agree with any of the other branches of the Church any more than it does Protestantism.

[NKP_Vet]

“The reason why many don’t answer His call”

More than 1/2 of the Christians on earth are Catholics, the second largest group is the Eastern Orthodox, and 35,000 different denominations of protestants comprising the rest.

So what is that about Catholics not answering His “call”?