Posted on 05/14/2014 10:02:57 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
The original writings from the Apostles themselves (the autographs) no longer exist.
This is due partly to the perishable material (papyrus) used by the writers, and partly the fact that the Roman emperors decreed the destruction of the sacred books of the Christians (Edict of Diocletian, A.D. 303).
Before translating the Bible into Latin, St. Jerome already translated into more common languages enough books to fill a library. (Saint Jerome, Maisie Ward, Sheed & Ward; A Companion to Scripture Studies, Steinmuller.)
In the year 383, he revised the Latin New Testament text in accordance with some Greek manuscripts. Between the years 390 and 406 he translated the Old Testament directly from the Hebrew, and this completed work is known today as the "Old Latin Vulgate". The work had been requested by Pope Damasus, and Copies of St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate appeared uncorrupted as late as the 11th century, with some revisions by St. Peter Damian and Lanfranc. (Catholic Encyclopedia, "Place of the Bible in the Church", C.U.A.)
Pope Benedict XV wrote about St. Jerome's translation in his 1920 encyclical, Spiritus Paraclitus, "Nor was Jerome content merely to gather up this or that teacher's words; he gathered from all quarters whatever might prove of use to him in this task. From the outset he had accumulated the best possible copies of the Bible and the best commentators on it," . . . "he corrected the Latin version of the Old Testament by the Greek; he translated afresh nearly all the books of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Latin; . . . he discussed Biblical questions with the brethren who came to him, and answered letters on Biblical questions which poured in upon him from all sides; besides all this, he was constantly refuting men who assailed Catholic doctrine and unity."
(Excerpt) Read more at cathtruth.com ...
HMMMmmm...
"What they say about a breakthrough [in Najaf] is completely an illusion. They are sending their warplanes to fly very low in order to have vibrations on these sacred places . . . they are trying to crack the buildings by flying low over them."
'We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."
Romans 11:4-6
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
So; what difference does it make?
We also 'refuse' to believe Jesus needs His MOM to open all His mail for Him; too.
We also 'refuse' to believe that your DEAD 'saints' can do ANYTHING to influence how Heaven reacts to a prayer request for below.
"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."
"They do not even have control over themselves! Do not believe them!"
HMMMmmm...
“Catholics reserve the right to tell Protestants...”
No, we are using “apologetics” which means to explain what we actually believe to set the record straight in terms of pointing out the things that Protestants have omitted or otherwise changed.
The word protesntat comes from proest. Their very definition is to “protest” Catholci doctrine, so Catholcis will of course defend their teachings. We are on defense, not offense, so we are not telling Protestants what they believe; we are pointing out the difference between Protestant and Catholic teaching in our own defense.
How could Catholics be the ones distorting true teaching when Protestants were the ones who protested and changed things centuries later? This is not possible.
sorry Protestant comes from protest. I try to catch typos but I am handicapped in the right hand and do not type well.
“I have tried to explain this in the best ways I can but I can’t force you or anyone else to accept it. Believe what you want, you will not convince me”
Ignorance of Christian history is the reason that many PROTESTants hate the Catholic Church. It’s like talking to a wall. In the minds of some the Catholic Church is the work of the devil. When in fact without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible, there would be no United States, there would be no Western Civilization. But some PROTESTants carry such a hatred in their heart for all things Catholic that getting them to admit the obvious is harder than scaling Mt. Everest. In the end, on Judgement Day, God will sort it all out...........
“It is easier to live as a Protestant, but better to die as a Catholic” ~ Attributed to Martin Luther
Drop them in the order in which Luther apparently created them. Read some history. Learn. Then act.
My assertions are contained in scripture, something you have mangled and twisted to arrive at your idea of salvation. I will say a special prayer for you and your ilk at Mass tomorrow morning.
Well done. Thank you for your research and additions to this discussion.
LOL! Good ol’ Baghdad Bob. The similarities ARE striking, though.
Careful...you may be skating awfully close to:
To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” (Luke 18:9-14)
You deny God’s Pilgrim Church on earth. You are in need of prayer............big time.
Once again you are still trying this polemic. Thus you and all the others RCs who invoke this "we gave you the Bible: we assuredly know what it means, need to answer the following:
Consistent with this assertion, what is the basis for assurance of Truth?
Is your argument that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for valid assurance of Truth and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith. (Jn. 14:16; 16:13; Mt. 16:18)
And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus those who dissent from the latter are in rebellion to God?
Actual history is with the Jews, who were the historical instruments and stewards of Scripture, and inheritors of promises of Divine guidance, presence and perpetuation, (Lv. 10:11; Dt. 4:31; 17:8-13; Is. 41:10, Ps. 89:33,34) over whom sat those in the seat of Moses over Israel.
Since RCs argue this requires an assuredly infallible magisterium, why not follow them? Or can assurance of Truth (like what Scripture is and means) be obtained without a perpetual AIM (assuredly infallible magisterium)
“to be deep in history is to cease to be protestant.”
No, that is simply not true, as instead, outside Roman revisionist history, history is an argument against claims of Rome and her Peter and early papacy, and it is a fundamentally different church than the NT church, even from its basis assurance of Truth.
St. Jerome is one of my all time favorite saints and I hope to read the book that you referenced.
Who rejected apocryphal books along with other down thru history and right into Trent, while engaging in contrived interpretation of Scripture to support his unbalanced position against marriage.
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