Is it then your premise that the gates of hell prevailed against the holy catholic apostolic Church of Jesus the Messiah which he promised would triumph, or do you have an alternative Church that meets these criteria ?
The gates of hell certainly prevailed against Peter on the day he denied his Lord three times. The alternative Church to which is referred to which will indeed triumph is not of this world or kingdom although we may be a part of it. It is founded upon Jesus Christ Himself (not the Peter to which the catholic church claims) No earthly institution can be this Church. The Church is Jesus and to be a part of it one must submit to Him and become a part of Him and He you. He, personally, guides the Church.
Quoted from the ‘how to pray the rosary instruction booklet:
Whoever shall faithfully SERVE ME (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.
And Joshua answered and said unto him, ‘Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship Yah thy Elohim, and HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.
With her first promise in her how to pray the rosary instruction manual, she contradicts scripture..
Satanic is exactly what it is..
Counterfeit is exactly what it is..
Substitute Messiah is exactly what it is...
Subtle yes, but Satan has worked subtlety for centuries.. He already has the secular humanists after all..
And the protestant daughters are following her mother church in ways that should bring a lump to their throat if they really want to examine it and be honest..
I think catholics have a very good point when they say mary points to jesus in some form or fashion:(even mentions him once by name in those promises- she had time to squeeze one in with all the I, Me, and My)
So why does this lying substitute point to jesus?
Maybe because jesus is a greco roman latin substitute messiah for the True Messiah of Israel.
A greco roman latin Substitute with substitute holy days( december 25 and easter), sabbaths (saturnsday or suns day), and even a substitute name ( instead of English transliterated name of Joshua - at least if one speaks English- see acts 7:45 and hebrews 4:8 to see if ‘Joshua’ has replaced those ‘Jesus’ references to the old testament in your bibles)
If your bible has changed those two Jesus references to the English transliteration joshu, why not the 900 plus other ones ( some translactions have kept those as Jesus BTW)?
I think it is an honest question if we wish for truth to win out.
And protestants and catholics alike would say I am a heretic for even posing the question of whether the Jesus of the churches is the messiah or claiming as I do that he is a substitution for Joshua, the True Messiah of Israel who did come at appointed time , was cirumcised at an appointed time, dedicate to the temple at an appointed time, baptized at an appointed time,executed at an appointed time and raised at an appointed time - all according to His Word. And His appointed times bear no resemblance to the churches substitute appointed times..
For protestants, mary appears to be one of the only few things the protestant daughters have in opposition...
If a protestants who hate this Mary stuff, reads this-
They should examine what else are their denominations are actually sharing with their mother.
The true church is one that worships in spirit and truth and it may not be in a building..
After studying and revelation, I don’t see it in either the Roman Catholic Church (thanks to this Mary stuff) or in her protestant daughters(because of the shared traditions passed down - like an inheritance- Jeremiah did speak of inherited lies from our fathers)
Almost like the whole world is living one big counterfeit lie and accepting a counterfeit false premise..
And that is certainly one way satan can deceive even the very elect..make them accept a subtle false premise long enough and it begins to be considered ‘given truth’..
To where protestants and Catholics would find me and my beliefs as nonsense...
I think roman catholics and protestants should examine what they truly have faith in..
Is it their church teaching? Their own learning ? They defend their churches
Like a bear defends her cubs on this forum..
If we have inherited lies, even if we are honestly mitsken in accepting them, where is the Truth?
Truth wasn’t in that first promise this Mary gave.. we prove that by quoting the Messiah of Israel.
If she lied, then she isn’t pointng us to the Son of the Living Elohim. And what she points us to, even if we were taught it from a very early age, isn’t the Way, the Truth or the Life..
That isn’t easy for people to accept..some will continue to defend their faith in that.
So,I now can say I doubt the churches (plural) stances on almost everything because I don’t accept their premise to begin with...
I believe the Messiah of Israel will meet all of us where we are...even if we knew his name as jesus.. But He Loves us too much to let us stay there..
May He bless your journey out of Babylon..