Posted on 05/05/2014 6:09:42 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
I always find questions that begin “What Would Jesus Do?” rather obnoxious for two reasons. First, because they are usually posed by people absolutely certain that Jesus follows their views in lockstep, and second, because Christ of course is God and the mind of the All-Mighty is unknowable to us. As Lincoln put it so well in his Second Inaugural:
Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes.
So questions that begin “What Would Jesus Do”?, strike me as presumptuous at best and blasphemous at worst.
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Well, the death penalty did exist in Jesus’ homeland and I don’t recall him specifically condemning it.
Lots of death penalty happening to real murdering criminals going on in Jesus’ day, and I think the only thing he ever said on it was:
....crickets....
“What Would Jesus Do?”
The question that too many fail to ask is What Did Jesus Do? That is the critical question. The answer of course is he died for sinners.
Good point, but judging our lives against that of Jesus Christ is at the basis of being a Christian.
If someone who actually suffered the death penalty never condemned it, what does that tell you?
Since Jesus received the death penalty himself and didn’t protest the government’s action, one can assume he thought it was a legitimate form of punishment.
God ordered the death penalty for agag as well as a whole lot of evil canaanites.
God is in the business of protecting the innocent, not the wicked.
What basis is there to believe Christ Jesus would be at odds with God the Father on any question?
Well, presumptuous is a pretty good description if given that the person asking does not go to the source.
Jesus Christ gave us all the infotmation we need—both old and new testaments. We do have to read them however.
I believe there is not one unanswered question regarding the affairs of men that were not addressed by Jesus Christ, the Word of God.
Oh, it is a fading memory, but it seems there was once a nation that was founded upon the instruction manual provided.
America. Just one. It was exceptional, one cannot read the foundational underpinnings and not hear the echoes of the Word.
Obama Osama is a blasphemous man, he taunts both God and God’s people, calls abortion a blessing from God.
Well... I still say “God Bless America”. That He will not is a given. You betray God and you lose His Grace. You blaspheme God as a leader and you lose everything.
Pray this. God forgive us our sins, give us repentance and a broken heart that you will know our sorrows are deep, we each are wretched and hopeless without You. We serve You, we are flawed and our best efforts are as filthy rags. Cover us in our shame we pray. In your Son’s holy and pure name, Jesus Christ we pray.
Amen.
The same applies to slavery.
And......?
Jesus believed in the validity of the death penalty, enough that he allowed it to be performed on himself.
My main issue with this supposedly good question is that the answer is this: Jesus did what ever the Father told Him to do at that time, in that place, in that situation. And it wasn’t always the same. He healed 6 different blind men 6 different ways.
It is the ultimate arrogance for one to assume that with the broken, sinful, limited human mind WE on our own can figure out what Jesus would do in every situation. It’s ludicrous to think that! AND, if we try it, we will most certainly be WRONG almost all the time.
That’s why God gave us His Holy Spirit - to hear and know what He is saying, in that time, that moment, that place. As He is infinite, there may be an infinite number of possibilites - which however will not generally contradict the truth He has given us in scripture. Yes, “we have the mind of Christ..”, but that is only as we totally yield ourselves to Him, willing to do His will and not our own, knowing how easily we can chose our own way and think it is “spiritual” or “scriptural”.
But the problem here is our INTERPRETATION of scripture may be.....wrong! The scribes, lawyers and Pharisees of Jesus time were absolute that their interpretation of scripture was the correct one.
Jesus comes along, the incarnate Son of God, and in much of what He did, totally contradicted their “correct” interpretation of scripture....as He listened to His Father’s voice and obeyed Him in every detail. Thus, He was a blasphemer who had to be killed.
Is my understanding of scripture totally correct? Of course not. I’m 69 and much of my more mature years has been spent repenting of things I knew to be absolutely true when young. Not about the person and work of our Lord Jesus, but about the peripherals.
“My sheep hear my voice..” We should never try to do what Jesus did as to His decisions or actions. Never. But we should always try, in meekness and humility, try to do what He always did: hear what the Father is saying to us in that time, in that place, in that moment.
Sometimes He will surprise us - just as Jesus so often surprised the 12 that spent so much time with Him........
And the self-righteous and religious around us will often react to us the very same way they did to Jesus.........Luke 18:9ff
“What would JESUS do?”
I suspect that question originated with atheists.
Different definition of slavery then. Most of it was voluntary to work off debts.
It was nothing like the chattel slavery that you’re thinking of.
It IS, however, a comparison that anti-God leftists use to “judge” God and His Word.
Absolutely great point.
The penalty for sin is death. Eternal death.
Jesus was a devout Jew (as well as the son of God), and as Dennis Prager has noted many times (I’ll do my best here) the only crime mentioned in all five books of the Torah is murder that is a crime punishable by death. Also, the commandment so often misinterpreted because of its mistranslation from the original Hebrew is “Thou shalt not murder”.
No worries about the first death it’s the second death that counts.
I don’t recall ever asking my government to be my Savior. Government has a very different role to fill. “Render unto Caesar what is Ceasar’s”... ought that not include the responsibilities that belong to government, along with the taxes?
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