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Canonization of popes John Paul II, John XXIII to draw millions to Rome
New York Post ^ | 04/20/14 | Pedro Oliveira Jr

Posted on 04/20/2014 10:45:40 AM PDT by Old Yeller

Easter services today are expected to kick off a record-breaking week at the Vatican. Two beloved modern popes — John Paul II and John XXIII — are to be canonized at the Vatican next Sunday by Pope Francis. There will be services all week, which could draw the most pilgrims ever to the Catholic capital. John Paul II is remembered for helping to bring down communism and for inspiring a generation of Catholics.

Many now call him “The Great,” only the fourth pope to have earned the moniker. And while much of the crowd’s focus will be on the Polish pope’s remarkable achievements, Pope John XXIII — known as the “Good Pope” for his kindhearted nature — was no less revolutionary. Pope Francis bypassed the second miracle typically required for canonization for John XXIII, declaring that he deserved the honor for having convened the Second Vatican Council.

Rome officials said they expected 3 million visitors in the city during the period from the Easter celebrations this weekend and the canonization next Sunday. Nineteen heads of state and 24 prime ministers are expected to attend the canonization ceremony in St. Peter’s Square. In line with Pope Francis’s no-frills papacy, organizers said the canonizations would be a much more sober affair than the three-day extravaganza that marked John Paul’s beatification, the last step before sainthood, in 2011. Cardinal Agostino Vallini, the vicar of Rome, said some churches would remain open overnight on the eve of the canonization to provide a spiritual retreat for pilgrims, “but not much else.”

Francis has long signaled his support for making a saint of John Paul II, whose funeral nine years ago saw mourners chant, “Santo subito [Saint now]!”

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Let me guess: "We aren't worshipping him, we're venerating him".
1 posted on 04/20/2014 10:45:41 AM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: Old Yeller

I heard some liberals say that these popes being declared saints is a political move. Leave it to the liberals to rain on someone else’s parade. These liberals aren’t even faithful Catholics, so what is it to them, what the Catholic church does?

Besides, liberals are supposed to be tolerant. They tell us to be tolerant of others and what they are doing.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 10:48:18 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Old Yeller
"Let me guess: "We aren't worshipping him, we're venerating him"."

You guessed it.

Have a cookie.

3 posted on 04/20/2014 10:50:44 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Old Yeller

By taking the name John XXIII, he settled the question of whether the previous John XXIII was an anti-pope.


4 posted on 04/20/2014 11:04:32 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The liberals are right -- but not for the reasons you've cited.

It is highly irregular for the Catholic Church to canonize anyone -- let alone a pope -- so soon after they've died. If you go back over history you'll find that it usually takes centuries of intense research and scrutiny before they would ever canonize a saint who was such a high-profile figure. I believe there have only been three popes canonized who served after 1200 A.D.

5 posted on 04/20/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Old Yeller

I would say that John XXIII’s convening of Vatican II is a giant blot on an otherwise edifying life story.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 12:11:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m sure these are worthy men ... but life is about a relationship with Jesus. . .sometimes people get so caught up in the moment and forget The Real Bottomline.


7 posted on 04/20/2014 12:14:02 PM PDT by Maudeen (Jesus is the Answer. . .now what is the problem?)
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To: Old Yeller

2,000 years ago, the Son of God rose from the grave, after being tortured and murdered on a cross, so that the penalty of sin would be paid for all of humanity, and Hell itself could be avoided if we only accepted the Christ in our hearts.

Of all days to peddle this idolatry, did the Vatican have to pick the Resurrection Day of Jesus Christ?


8 posted on 04/20/2014 12:15:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Old Yeller

I think both canonizations are premature.

John XXIII convened Vatican II. Huge mistake.

JPII neglected major parts of his job. His episcopal appointments were wretched, and as complaints about Hunthausen, Weakland, Clark, Hubbard, and others piled up, he did nothing. He was a dupe of the repellent Maciel.


9 posted on 04/20/2014 12:16:24 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Old Yeller

Obama is sending three reliably pro-abortion Catholics to the canonization. They will all be given Communion.


10 posted on 04/20/2014 12:18:14 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: MUDDOG

“By taking the name John XXIII, he settled the question of whether the previous John XXIII was an anti-pope.”

Since the original “John XXIII” willingly renounced any claims to the papacy and recognized Martin V it would seem that was taken care of in the 15th century. As a final jibe at Martin V, however, his supporters made sure that his tomb inscription said: “John the former pope”. Martin V was furious, but let it stand.


11 posted on 04/20/2014 12:23:29 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: SkyPilot

“Of all days to peddle this idolatry, did the Vatican have to pick the Resurrection Day of Jesus Christ?”

Of all days to peddle your false accusations of idolatry, did you have to pick the Resurrection Day of Jesus Christ?


12 posted on 04/20/2014 12:26:35 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Alberta's Child

“It is highly irregular for the Catholic Church to canonize anyone — let alone a pope — so soon after they’ve died. If you go back over history you’ll find that it usually takes centuries of intense research and scrutiny before they would ever canonize a saint who was such a high-profile figure. I believe there have only been three popes canonized who served after 1200 A.D.”

Not exactly. Padre Pio was canonized 34 years after his death. John XXIII? 52 years after his death. St. Francis of Assisi was canonized only two years after his death. It varies wildly from saint to saint.


13 posted on 04/20/2014 12:33:52 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

It never lets up does it.


14 posted on 04/20/2014 12:36:03 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Old Yeller

Oh, fuss, fuss, fuss.


15 posted on 04/20/2014 12:44:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat! And carry an umbrella.)
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To: vladimir998

16 posted on 04/20/2014 12:59:05 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

What Drudge posts doesn’t effect your responsibility for what you post.


17 posted on 04/20/2014 1:40:06 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
If you claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ and believe the Scriptures are true, then you should see something wrong with this picture I am posting now.

If you don't, then look inward.

18 posted on 04/20/2014 2:51:58 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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19 posted on 04/20/2014 2:58:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

There’s nothing wrong with that or this: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/events/Ceremonies/WreathLayings.aspx


20 posted on 04/20/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by vladimir998
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