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Did the Exodus happen?
Jewish Journal ^ | 04/18/2014 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 04/18/2014 9:01:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bigheadfred

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21 posted on 04/18/2014 11:39:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dasboot; Verginius Rufus

There’s a tradition (I think it was preserved in the rabbinical sources) that among the structures built by the Israelites in Egypt were pyramids, and those particular pyramids (which would have to be Middle Kingdom in date) can still be seen in the Fayoum, and were indeed built of brick rather than the stone used for the Giza pyramids.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 11:41:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Othniel

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23 posted on 04/18/2014 11:42:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
explained to my congregation that according to archeologists, there was no reliable evidence that the Exodus took place

No offense intended Rabbi, but that is a load of Horsesh!t. The OT and NT get more archeologists' evidence every year that the stories are accurate.

5.56mm

24 posted on 04/18/2014 11:44:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: SeekAndFind

I actually researched a term paper about it back in college. I tried to tie the events in Exodus with things from historical writings. A lot of what happened in Exodus could be explained by a volcanic eruption in the Med at about the same time.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 11:45:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind; dasboot; SunkenCiv

Somebody should tell Mr. Prager that there is a movie on this subject, “Patterns of Evidence,” coming out later this year. Because the composer of the soundtrack is archaeologist David Rohl, who believes evidence of the Israelites has been found in Egypt (e.g., skeletons of plague victims, the house and tomb of Joseph), I’m expecting the movie will assert the Exodus happened much like the Bible described it.


26 posted on 04/18/2014 1:50:48 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

Rohl makes a compelling case, and buttresses his findings with much previous scholarship. Examine his footnotage...and dig. At least it shows the case is yet open. No one can declare the debate is over.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 3:40:28 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: SeekAndFind

In the absence of unimpeachable historical evidence, the logic of Mr. Prager’s arguments is compelling to me as a non-Jew.


28 posted on 04/18/2014 4:04:26 PM PDT by wildbill (O)
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To: SeekAndFind
And what was the historical or archeological or documentary basis by which they determined that the Hebrews tried to rip off the Pharoah’s stuff?

Fingerprints and hidden cameras, of course.

Absurd!

29 posted on 04/18/2014 4:05:32 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind
The winners of wars usually get to write the history of what happened.

I don't know WHY this particular history is so important nowadays. Jesus always existed anyway, so it doesn't really matter too much about the exact where, when and how of the people among whom He chose to be born, does it?
HE is the cornerstone, He preached, taught and lived. Then He suffered and died for our sins so that we could be reconciled with our Creator.

Easter: He is risen. Alleluia!

Thank you, Lord.

30 posted on 04/18/2014 4:11:02 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: dasboot

Oh I know David Rohl’s case very well. Ten years ago I got to meet him at a seminar in Clearwater, FL, and currently he is a friend of mine on Facebook.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 5:15:37 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

Tell him I said hi.... :^)


32 posted on 04/18/2014 5:39:40 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Berosus

Tell him I said hi.... :^)


33 posted on 04/18/2014 5:39:42 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see that many Jews in Egypt these days, Dennis. Do you?


34 posted on 04/18/2014 6:08:15 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: SeekAndFind
Exodus Decoded.
35 posted on 04/18/2014 6:23:10 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: SeekAndFind
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.

My husband and I were camping on Cape Hatteras a few years ago. During the night their was a violent storm with very high winds. When we awoke the bay had receded from the shore several miles and dry sand extended for as far as we could see. Amazing!

The wind had blown the water of this shallow estuary elsewhere. I have seen the same effect, but not so dramatic, on the Laguna Madre by North Padre Island, Texas.

36 posted on 04/18/2014 6:37:32 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: grania

Please read my post #36.


37 posted on 04/18/2014 6:40:10 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: dasboot; RitchieAprile

“Jews in Egypt were long gone before the pyramids were buillt...according to credible evidence.”

On the contrary, there is evidence that the pyramids were built before Noah’s Flood. It is a given that the Isralites were not the pyramid builders, as slaves or otherwise. And the Bible does not suggest this.


38 posted on 04/18/2014 6:55:19 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: cloudmountain

RE: The winners of wars usually get to write the history of what happened.

If Exodus is a story of the Israelites being the “winners” over Egypt, then I find it strange that it would record the FAILURES of her people in great detail.

AS Prager observes in the article:

Every other people in the world made up a grand and powerful history for themselves. They were all mighty and courageous. Jews, on the other hand, were slaves, idol worshippers, rebels and ingrates.

In fact, Exodus is the story not only of the defeat of the Egyptian Pharoah but also of the FAILURE and DISOBEDIENCE of the people who left Egypt.

Also, the historicity of Exodus is important to Christians because Christ IS the ultimate passover lamb who was sacrificed to satisfy the wrath of God.


39 posted on 04/18/2014 7:48:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind; windcliff

I suspect there were many migratory movements, back and forth, some Jewish, some Egyptian, of varying momentousness, for which a mass movement narrative arose, was transmitted orally through several generations, and was gradually composed into the Exodus narrative.

The struggles of and for such people in its development of the Holy Land make this accreted narrative no less divine and compelling for me.


40 posted on 04/19/2014 8:06:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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