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To: daniel1212
Many Protestant churches do, and one can, but the Lord did not teach us to pray the "Our Father" as being a formal prayer, and in fact He preceded it by stating, when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, but distinctly said,

Good, I was not aware of that. Which Prot churches say this prayer in their assembly ? The Our Father is the only case of which I'm aware that the disciples asked him to teach them how to pray and his teaching was specifically recorded as inspired Scripture. I don't think it can be improved on, but if you do, and have faith to do so, improve on it. It should be written in my heart. I should say it daily, as the Spirit of God brings it to mind, loving God with all my heart, soul, and strength. That would never be a vain repetition, but rather

O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise. For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth : That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

And it came to pass , that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased , one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray , as John also taught his disciples. And he said unto them, When ye pray , say , Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come . Thy will be done , as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

I think Joel Osteen has to squeeze this in at the end of every hour; it seems strained and somewhat vain to me when he does it.

I view these types of "Sinner's Prayers" as a Protestant/Evangelical religious tradition. They have an appearance of being scriptural (sort of like Gospel Music) but fall short of inspired Scripture. They don't seem right to me. What do you think ?

I don't think Messiah taught us to pray to himself everyday. I don't think it is wrong. I think we can call on him in spirit and truth. He taught us to pray to God the Father. I find that significant and worthy of my attention and respect. God is One. The Son always honors the Father. The mother always points to the Son.

423 posted on 04/07/2014 8:42:54 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Which Prot churches say this prayer in their assembly ?

Occasionally; our congregation (Wesleyan) is led in "The Lord's Prayer".

I never bring it up; but to me it is less an actual prayer, but a MODEL for a prayer, as I feel that is done more for a feeling of solidarity among folks in the congregation: but that's just me speaking.

(Sorry for the three 'but's in one sentence, but my brain is going really slow this morning.)

Dang!

I just did 2 more!

434 posted on 04/08/2014 3:35:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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