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To: af_vet_1981
are apparently denying the Holy Spirit

You appear to be unfamiliar with how Protestant approach the matter of inspiration. We agree with all believers everywhere that God inspired Scripture through His Holy Spirit.

But we do not see that same inspiration in every attempt to translate Scripture. As mentioned above, once you start applying the same level of inspiration to every subsequent translator you subject yourself to the possibility of misconstruing human error for holy writ.

And as a matter of history, God has given us an excellent body of autograph texts to serve as stable reference points for any translation effort. Why should we not use them? They are God's gift to His people.

Which other verses in the Bible do you deny ?

That is in form a loaded question. It is an inferior form of argument, begging the question. I feel certain you are capable of more adroit work. Alter the form to not presume the answer in the question and I will be happy to respond.

268 posted on 04/06/2014 11:09:35 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
That is in form a loaded question.

Yep; there are a LOT of them in this thread!

303 posted on 04/07/2014 4:10:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Springfield Reformer
That is in form a loaded question. It is an inferior form of argument, begging the question. I feel certain you are capable of more adroit work. Alter the form to not presume the answer in the question and I will be happy to respond.

Yes, of course. Are there verses in the KJV (I understand there are from the Catholic Canon but I'm asking about the Protestant Canon, as it were) that you or your church exclude, or diminish, because they are not found in some of the oldest manuscripts ? If yes, can you list them all ?

Your other comments were very well written and do credit for your study and demeanor in a forum that could use more of both.

311 posted on 04/07/2014 6:28:58 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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