Replies

I don’t generally support any boycotts crossing national boundaries. Recall the history of my people, for which some international Jewish big-shots organized an international boycott against Germany in the early 1930’s that turned the entire German nation against the Jews. We saw how that ended.

I asked about your particular Presbyterian church; did they vote on it ? I find it rather shocking that you would blame international Jewish big-shots for turning the entire German nation against the Jews. That is classic antisemitism, where did you learn that ? Satan turned most of the German nation against the Jews and they followed him with fervor.

That said, I didn’t feel a need to respond to any loaded question. On a similar note, you never answered my loaded question about your love for the Jews, when I asked, “which Jews?” If you recall I segregated my questions by race and religion, so you could pick and choose.

I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour? And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

>>>I asked about your particular Presbyterian church; did they vote on it?<<<

Frankly, I doubt they would even know what you are talking about. I didn't. We don't talk about such things in Church. We are not obsessed with anything, that I am aware of, except maybe showing reverence to God during our services. Well in my case I will declare that I am possibly obsessed with reading and debating God's Word, and maybe gardening.

>>>I find it rather shocking that you would blame international Jewish big-shots for turning the entire German nation against the Jews. That is classic antisemitism, where did you learn that?<<<

That is called Classic History and Classic Truth that has been brushed under the rug and kept there by the threat of receiving the anti-semite label in our nation, and the threat of imprisonment in some other nations. Talk about a Pharisaic stranglehold! How is that different from stoning the early Christians for the false charge of blasphemy? And imprisonment for speech? I am astonished Christian nations have fallen this far in my lifetime.

When you attempt to use that smear on me, I label it Classic Anti-Christian Bigotry, which puts you in the same league as those darlings of freedom: the American Civil Liberties Union and the Anti-Defamation League, whose deceitful titles hide the fact that they are primarily interested in destroying Christianity; but under the cloak of fighting anti-semitism.

You obviously don't have a clue about what happened in Germany, other than what you have been spoon-fed by the Anti-Christian Bigots. Untermyer organized the boycott against the best wishes of the American Jewish Committee who tried to explain to that arrogant old fool that things were highly sensitive. But he pushed the boycott along, anyway: and he was a lawyer with a lot of money and influence. He was no different than the arrogant, power-hungry fools that are destroying our nation, and other nations, today. You will never convince them they are not right, because the "know" they are.

This was the title of the New York Times article on Untermyer's arrogance (my bold and underline):

UNTERMYER SEES HITLER'S END SOON; Effective Boycott Can Upset Regime Within a Year, He Says at Youngstown. HE IS CRITICAL OF ZIONISTS. Prague Negotiations Harmful, He Asserts in Talk to B'nai Brith Lodges. THE NEW YORK TIMES; August 28, 1933

He certainly showed Hitler who was boss, didn't he? Talk about head-in-the sand arrogance!

That article, by the way, came directly from the New York Times archive; not from some lunatic fringe website.

From what I understand, at that time a good chunk of the German people did not hate the Jews; and I don’t' believe there was any general persecution of Jews. I seem to recall they could all have left if they wanted to; and many did. There were some round-ups and possible persecutions and/or imprisonments of the German communists (the Bolshevik Jews) who showed allegiance to Stalin; but that would be treason in any country, even today. But by the time Untermyer and the lunatic fringe that followed were finished, the Germans were almost universally behind Hitler, and against the Jews.

You are quick to smear, but you know it won't work with me. I will throw it back in your face every time. I know that you ignore God's instruction that Christians be no respecter of persons. In fact, I have never read anything you have written about how much you love whites, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Chinese, Christians generally, or anyone else, but Jews.

Yet I'm a Jew, and you seem to despise me. Do you despise me because I am not in love with Jews as an individual race, but only as members of the human race, like God instructs? If I single them out as special, I show respect of persons and therefore deny God. Are you trying to brow-beat me into denying God?

I will, however single out Christians as special. But that is another matter altogether.

>>>Satan turned most of the German nation against the Jews and they followed him with fervor.<<<

Satan, huh? So you believe Moses was a false prophet? Why do I get the feeling you despise the prophesies of Moses?

To everyone else, Moses said Israel (as a nation) would be cursed if they did not follow God's commandments and statutes; and Moses said they would be destroyed as individuals if they did not hear Jesus Christ. It doesn't get much clearer than that. Yet, some on this forum believe that God will give them a pass because they are "his chosen people."

I tell you the truth when I say they are no longer God's chosen people, and have not been since the days of Christ: maybe even since the days they were carried away into Babylon! Recall that God at one time destroyed nations before them when the entered the promised land. Then, less than a thousand years later, he turned on them and sent other nations to destroy and enslave them! Why? Because they broke God's covenant with them one too many times.

No matter what you have heard, God will not restore Jerusalem to its former estate until he restores Sodom and Samaria to their former estates (Ezekiel 16:55.) And that will not happen.

>>>I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? . . . <<<

I had asked you why you love Jews; that is, why you single them out?” And your response is that? Quoting a bunch of scripture cannot explain why you continue to show respect of persons, against the teaching of God's Word.

We are all one blood, friends (Acts 17:26.) Don't believe anyone who tries to divide us.

Philip