Posted on 03/22/2014 1:35:03 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
>>>All established fact, is that your objection?<<<
Explain yourself, for the benefit of other readers.
Philip
I think that your posts have already established that you do not read anything that is posted.
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>>>.Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:<<<
>>>Everyone should be more like you Preterists and allegorize everything right<<<
So God now dispenses his grace to us, forever; like the Church is forever.
What is your point?
Philip
>>Maybe the regathering was a scheme created by wealthy influential men<<
>>>That tinfoil hat is way too tight on you.<<<
More dispensational misdirection. Everyone, throughly research Samuel Untermyer. He was the Chuck Schumer of his time; but with afterburners.
Philip
>>>I think that your posts have already established that you do not read anything that is posted.<<<
Of course I did. And I requested proof of your strange claims, and you failed to deliver. Where’s the proof?
Philip
What is strange to you is normal!
(that is the standard of proof)
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You re-quoted Hosea 14:4-9, with no explanation, whatsoever! I cannot read your mind.
>>>But then there are the preterists that refuse the entire word of God.<<<
I don't know about preterists, since I am not one. But it is obvious who ignores much of the word of God: the new age-cults, like the Roodies and the dispensationalists. They have created their own little world. Too bad for them that it is unbiblical.
Philip
I think Babylon the Harlot may very well be New York. Read Revelation. The things mentioned there when Babylon the Great has fallen, has fallen, sounds a lot like NY City.
>>>What is strange to you is normal!<<<
You mean like your post in #37, which reads:
“Rome slaughtered ALL of the apostles.”
I don’t believe interpretations of the scripture can get any more strange than that. Which one of the Roodies saw that vision from God? I mean, it is not in the scriptures, so it must have been derived from a vision from God, or an ouija board, or a crystal ball.
Philip
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I>/b>.
Now, who did Jesus pray to?
You really don’t get it do you? Paul liked “Dispensationalism” why don’t you?
Who was it then that killed the apostles?
Paul like dispensationalism? You are kidding, right? Paul would be railing against dispensationalists for preaching another gospel than the one he preached.
Where does Paul preach there was a Church Age? Where is the Dispensation of Human Government mentioned in the Bible? How about the Dispensation of the Kingdom?
It is all made up out of thin air.
Philip
>>>Who was it then that killed the apostles?<<<
For starters, Herod killed James, brother of John. Herod was a descendent of the evil Herod that wanted to kill the baby Jesus.
"Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people." (Acts 12:1-4 KJV)
Who was Herod, and where was James killed?
Philip
Besides Balaam, which prophets exactly do the Scriptures list that Jerusalem killed, and how many prophets are there ? Does your church hold to the Doctrine of Balaam also ?
Good point. We were told earlier that Babylon which is "Jerusalem" slaughtered the apostles and prophets and now it is Rome.
>>>John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I>/b>.<<<
>>>Now, who did Jesus pray to?<<<
That is a good question, but you did not answer my question. You grabbed one verse that supported your position and presented it. That is barely a cursory examination.
How about the following verses, taken in context:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 KJV)
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 KJV)
"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not." (John 1:10 KJV)
"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:3 KJV)
That sounds like Jesus created the heaven and the earth and all its host. Of course, we can find "evidence" that Jesus is not the Father; and he did not claim to be the father at all times when he was on earth in the form of sinful flesh; that is, he didn't brag about it. But then there is this:
"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:44 KJV)
So, no one can come to Jesus except the Father draw him. And we have these:
"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:" (John 3:14 KJV)
"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." (John 12:32 KJV)
So, who draws all men to Jesus: the Father, or Jesus himself? Or did the Father give all power, of drawing men to Jesus, after Jesus was lifted up? But if that is true, then the last day occurred before Jesus was lifted up? It is definitely confusing. Let's examine what Jesus said when pressed by Philip.
"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" (John 14:9 KJV)
Frankly, knowing that Jesus created all things, and that he said he was the Father when pressed by Philip, I am sticking with Jesus being the Father.
Philip
V. 3; For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality (Hollywood movies, normalizing homsexuality)
V. 19; “Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! For in a single hour she has been laid waste.
My hope lies in V. 4, perhaps this points to the rapture; Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;...
Um, dude. Herod was a commissioned by the Roman ruler Claudias and was part of the Roman Empire. James was killed by the Romans in what was part of the Roman Empire.
You still haven’t answered the question. Who did Jesus pray to?
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