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SERIOUS QUESTION: DO CATHOLICS REALLY BELIEVE THIS ABOUT MARY??
St Charles Barromeo Catholic Church ^ | 03-19-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by ealgeone

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SECOND EDITION

PART ONE THE PROFESSION OF FAITH SECTION TWO THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

CHAPTER THREE I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT

ARTICLE 9 "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"

Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church

963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; bigots; catholicchurch; catholicmary; hyperdulia; idolatry; mariolatry; mary; pagan
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To: ctdonath2
Ever?

Please become acquainted with Eucharistic Miracles where the host has turned into real flesh and the wine has turned into real blood.

‘Bleeding’ Eucharist at Primary School in Moruga [Trinidad]
The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, Italy (The Body and Blood of Christ) [Catholic Caucus]
Do You Believe in Eucharistic Miracles?
Eucharistic Miracle at St. Stephen's in New Boston MI.(Catholic Caucas)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES

[CATHOLIC CAUCUS]'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity': The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist
Looking After a Eucharistic Miracle (Franciscan Recounts His Special Mission in Siena)
Eucharistic Miracle: 2009?
Possible Eucharistic Miracle in Poland
The Eucharistic Miracles(Catholic Caucus)
Vatican display exhibits eucharistic miracles
Eucharistic Miracle - Bolsena-Orvieto, Italy
Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano -Verifies Authenticity of the Phenomenon
BLOOD TYPE FOUND IN ICONS IS SAME AS IN SHROUD OF TURIN AND 'LANCIANO MIRACLE'
Eucharistic Miracle: Lanciano,Italy-8th Century A.D.

381 posted on 03/20/2014 9:14:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

“Bigots”

“Morons”

Wow do you kiss the bishop’s ring with such vitriol.


382 posted on 03/20/2014 9:16:15 PM PDT by redleghunter (Jesus said: "it is written...")
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To: vladimir998
>> Okay, right after you show me where I ever said all truths are in scripture.<<

You probably missed this part.

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9

I know you don’t believe “all truths are in scripture” but you had better show where the apostles taught it or …….

383 posted on 03/20/2014 9:16:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Salvation

Proselytizing are you?


384 posted on 03/20/2014 9:18:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Wow just walked right into that now:) What a find CB.

>> I thank God for His grace and loving-kindness that spared me, a sinner, from falling into the filth of Protestant heresy and sectarianism.<<
Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

Those who seek truth know how that turned out for him.


385 posted on 03/20/2014 9:21:10 PM PDT by redleghunter (Jesus said: "it is written...")
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To: vladimir998; CynicalBear

>> “You were still wrong. The Nicolaitans were followers of Nicholaus” <<

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Nonsense.

The Nicolaitans were the men that demanded to be called “Great.” That was Yeshua’s gripe against them in Revelation, just as it was when he told his disciples not to be called Father, Rabbi, Great one, as all are equal.
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386 posted on 03/20/2014 9:23:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Religion Moderator

You are correct Mr.Moderator. And I was wrong to get snarky and I apologize for the snarkiness.


387 posted on 03/20/2014 9:27:20 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Salvation

>> “Please become acquainted with Eucharistic Miracles where the host has turned into real flesh and the wine has turned into real blood.” <<

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All the hand work of Satan. Yeshua declared that there would be no signs given but the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Signs and wonders are always of Satan.
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388 posted on 03/20/2014 9:27:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: vladimir998

I think 2 Timothy 3:16 addresses the inspiration of Scripture.


389 posted on 03/20/2014 9:30:28 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: aposiopetic

Sure do it all the time. Not the same thing as you assert it is. The NT example given was addressed to those of the Body living in this realm. Still nothing presented showing those who are departed are prayed to or even a hint of invoking them.

Again this is the only scriptural example of a departed saint invoked:

1 Samuel 28:7-17 NABRE

Then Saul said to his servants, “Find me a medium through whom I can seek counsel.” His servants answered him, “There is a woman in Endor who is a medium.” So he disguised himself, putting on other clothes, and set out with two companions. They came to the woman at night, and Saul said to her, “Divine for me; conjure up the spirit I tell you.”

But the woman answered him, “You know what Saul has done, how he expelled the mediums and diviners from the land. Then why are you trying to entrap me and get me killed?” But Saul swore to her by the L ord , “As the L ord lives, you shall incur no blame for this.” “Whom do you want me to conjure up?” the woman asked him.

“Conjure up Samuel for me,” he replied. When the woman saw Samuel, she shrieked at the top of her voice and said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!” But the king said to her, “Do not be afraid. What do you see?” “I see a god rising from the earth,” she replied. “What does he look like?” asked Saul. “An old man is coming up wrapped in a robe,” she replied. Saul knew that it was Samuel, and so he bowed his face to the ground in homage.

Samuel then said to Saul, “Why do you disturb me by conjuring me up?” Saul replied: “I am in great distress, for the Philistines are waging war against me and God has turned away from me. Since God no longer answers me through prophets or in dreams, I have called upon you to tell me what I should do.” To this Samuel said: “But why do you ask me, if the L ord has abandoned you for your neighbor? The L ord has done to you what he declared through me: he has torn the kingdom from your hand and has given it to your neighbor David.


390 posted on 03/20/2014 9:30:45 PM PDT by redleghunter (Jesus said: "it is written...")
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To: redleghunter
"Since you mentioned Stongs I thought why not post the correct versions." Correct versions? You mean the one in front of me is not correct? You mean the ones online are not correct? Like this one: Strong's number: 2962 GK Number: 3261 Hide Statistics Frequency in New Testament: 717 Morphology of Biblical Greek Tag: n-2a Gloss: lord, master Definition: lord, master. This can be a title of address to a person of higher status, lord, sir; a master of property or slaves; or a NT translation of the Hebrew 151 Lord or 3378 LORD, that is Yahweh, the proper name of God in the OT. a lord, master, Mt. 12:8; an owner, possessor, Mt. 20:8; a potentate, sovereign, Acts 25:26; a power, deity, 1 Cor. 8:5; the Lord, Yahweh, Mt. 1:22; the Lord Jesus Christ, Mt. 24:42; Mk. 16:19; Lk. 10:1; Jn. 4:1; 1 Cor. 4:5; freq.; κύριε, a term of respect of various force, Sir, Lord, Mt. 13:27; Acts 9:6, et al. freq. End paste. Also, your first link is to Yahweh (spelled differently, but Yahweh nonetheless) and not to Kyrios. Likewise, your second link IS NOT TO STRONG'S BUT TO THAYER and even Thayer says: "to the Messiah; and that αα. to the Messiah regarded universally: Luke 1:43; Luke 2:11; Matthew 21:3; Matthew 22:45; Mark 11:3; Mark 12:36; Luke 19:34; Luke 20:44." And that can only be regarded as Thayer's opinion which at worst can only cancel out Strong's. So, once again we see that Protestants can share the exact same Bible and still not agree!
391 posted on 03/20/2014 9:31:51 PM PDT by vladimir998 ("Protestant" is apparently another word for "Christ denier")
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To: editor-surveyor; Salvation

You’d better tell Jesus to quit sending us those ‘signs’.

The Transubstantiation happens at every valid Mass.

Mary approves!


392 posted on 03/20/2014 9:32:45 PM PDT by steve86 (to the nearest on-shore cell tower or repeater).)
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To: redleghunter

“Wow do you kiss the bishop’s ring with such vitriol.”

Do you think Jesus kissed His mother with the same mouth He said “vipers” with?


393 posted on 03/20/2014 9:33:53 PM PDT by vladimir998 ("Protestant" is apparently another word for "Christ denier")
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To: redleghunter

Saul had issues. I don’t think you or I would say he was asking someone to pray for him.


394 posted on 03/20/2014 9:35:10 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: CynicalBear

“You probably missed this part.”

No, I didn’t miss it.

“I know you don’t believe “all truths are in scripture” but you had better show where the apostles taught it or …….”

No, you had better who where the Apostles taught sola scriptura. But you can’t. You’ve never been able to before, and you can’t now. And you never will.


395 posted on 03/20/2014 9:37:06 PM PDT by vladimir998 ("Protestant" is apparently another word for "Christ denier")
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To: steve86
>> The Transubstantiation happens at every valid Mass.

Mary approves!<<

Prove it.

396 posted on 03/20/2014 9:37:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor

“The Nicolaitans were.....”

Followers of Nicholaus.


397 posted on 03/20/2014 9:37:49 PM PDT by vladimir998 ("Protestant" is apparently another word for "Christ denier")
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To: pgyanke

Joh 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
Joh 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.


Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.


She is mother and He is her son by virtue of her care and faith to the very end.


398 posted on 03/20/2014 9:38:27 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: ealgeone

It sure does. And it says nothing about sola scriptura. And that’s how it will stay.


399 posted on 03/20/2014 9:38:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 ("Protestant" is apparently another word for "Christ denier")
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To: vladimir998

Learn some Greek.


400 posted on 03/20/2014 9:38:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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