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Help Me Find Good Catholic Stuff from a Climate-Skeptic Perspective (Vanity)
Myself | Mrs Don-o

Posted on 03/14/2014 9:51:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

I am the editor of our tiny monthly parish newsletter. My pastor, with whom I have a pretty fair relationship, has just directed me to devote the April issue to Earth Day, the Environment, and Climate Change. He included a link to a compostable, shovel-ready statement by Bp Stephen Blair. I am aghast.

I don't wish to fight my pastor about this --- being a busy man, I doubt he has much of an opinion on "Climate" one way or the other, aside from what parish Greenies tell him. Bless their hearts.

Therefore I'm looking for articles which will take a recognizably Catholic point of view (i.e. opposite of Bishop Blair's boilerplate Earth Day cheerleading) --- distinguish between prudential judgments and moral absolutes, explain the limits of episcopal competence, and generally equip us against Enviro-Fraud, IPCC totalitarianism, and Eco-Idiocy.

I've heard that Benedict XVI had some good stuff about a non-Leftaroo, prudent Stewardship and Biblical Creation Care in several encyclicals, but I need to know exactly where to find it.

Please send me your best links to articles I could link to, crib from, or be guided by.

You know what I'm talkin' 'bout.

Trusting your quick minds and good judgment.


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: climatechange; earthday; globalwarming; nogore
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To: ebb tide; Mrs. Don-o
Why don’t you resign from your post in protest?

That is the exactly wrong thing to do.

21 posted on 03/14/2014 12:06:31 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It doesn’t make any sense for me to forego the opportunity to choose (and unchoose) what we publish as I see fit.

How long do you think your pastor will allow that? Due you think he'll let you publish the Oath against Modernism, also?

22 posted on 03/14/2014 12:07:58 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ansel12
All Catholic parishes, as far as I know, have priests for pastors. They in turn have associate pastors (also priests) and deacons as their assistants.

The exception would be where you don't have enough priests to have a resident priest for each parish, so you have "clusters" where there's one priest for several parishes. In such cases you'd typically have a "pastoral team" in each parish responsible for administration, and this could be composed of deacons, sisters, maybe even officers from the parish council (elected laypeople) --- but they would all be under the authority of that one priest, the pastor.

I hope I haven't been confusing.

23 posted on 03/14/2014 12:18:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: NorthMountain
"Subverting the Dominant Paradigm" and "Speaking Truth to Power" can be a lot more rewarding...

One thumb, two thumbs, many thumbs up!

24 posted on 03/14/2014 12:19:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Alex Murphy
I don't think anybody can dispute that thou shalt not poison thy neighbor's air, water, seed or soil.

It's the whole algore-able, mega-politicized, EPA-dictatorship, Global Weather Command and Control, or pantheistic misty-poo we have to smack down hard. And if it tries to get up, smack it down again.

25 posted on 03/14/2014 12:24:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: First_Salute

Excellent, thanks for these links. Exactly what I’m looking for.


26 posted on 03/14/2014 12:25:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Pell! Yes! Thank you! He’s the bomb.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I don’t wish to fight my pastor ...”

It’s not fighting, it’s education; he may even be grateful.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 12:31:24 PM PDT by Daffy
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To: ebb tide

Fr. Pete is an intelligent man, a conscientious pastor, and a good ally. We trust each other. That’s worth a lot. Yes, he’ll trust me to do the right thing.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 12:32:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Daffy
"I don’t wish to fight my pastor ..."... It’s not fighting, it’s education; he may even be grateful.

Yes, exactly. I think so. I expect reasonable people to act reasonably.

30 posted on 03/14/2014 12:35:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

What I was asking about was, when you kept using the word “pastor”, were you describing a priest.

Most of us are used to Catholics calling priests, priest.


31 posted on 03/14/2014 12:50:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Well, priest = pastor and vice versa, if here’s only one priest at your parish. If you have two priests or more, one might be the pastor, and the others might be retired, assistant pastor, associate pastor, visiting priests, or something else.


32 posted on 03/14/2014 12:57:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Just checking, I’m surprised that you prefer the word pastor over priest, I didn’t know it was that common.


33 posted on 03/14/2014 1:13:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Yup!


34 posted on 03/14/2014 1:27:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't consider Fr. Pete to be that intelligent if he's into Earth Day. And a true conscientious pastor should be interested in more spiritual matters for his flock than some fabricated day created by a lunatic Senator who was big into population control.

The April 22 Earth Day, founded by Senator Gaylord Nelson, was first organized in 1970 to promote ecology and respect for life on the planet as well as to encourage awareness of the growing problems of air, water and soil pollution.

Nelson viewed the stabilization of the nation's population as an important aspect of environmentalism. In his words:

The bigger the population gets, the more serious the problems become…. We have to address the population issue. The United Nations, with the U.S. supporting it, took the position in Cairo in 1994 that every country was responsible for stabilizing its own population. It can be done. But in this country, it's phony to say "I'm for the environment but not for limiting immigration."

Does your pastor know that Nelson was not only against immigration but he was pro population control? Does the the USSCCB know that, with its current howl for blanket amnesty?

35 posted on 03/14/2014 1:45:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“Intelligent” isn’t the same as “informed.”


36 posted on 03/14/2014 2:11:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And “stupid” isn’t the same as “dumb”.

Good luck in “informing” Fr. Pete.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 2:20:32 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
As I said before, I expect reasonable people to act reasonably.

But thank you for your wishes of good luck. You might throw in a Hail Mary as well. I'll report later on how it all turns out.

38 posted on 03/14/2014 2:36:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Prayers forthcoming.


39 posted on 03/14/2014 2:42:11 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bkmk


40 posted on 03/14/2014 3:23:30 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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