Timothy Dolan laughs after being elected president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Suppose the question had been put to Dolan like this:
“Jo Schmo, from your home state, the football player, revealed that he was a thief and a murderer, first in the NFL. How did you view it?” To be intellectually (and thus theologically) consistent Dolan would have to answer reporter like so: “Good for him. I would have no sense of judgment on him. God bless ya. I don’t think, look, the same Bible that tells us, that teaches us, well about the virtue of generosity and the virtue of kindness and charity also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, ‘Bravo.’"
Folks, does this help you see the fallacy in his position?
I am so disgusted at Cardinal Dolan I can hardly respond. (Is there an adequate word that combines fury, depression and shame?) I feel like reacting in a way that would do serious damage to my computer, which would be pointless.
Guess I'll write an editorial in my parish newsletter, and then send a copy to Unmitigated Tim. Not very adequate, but it's better than assault and battery on a priest, which would be a pretty serious canonical delict.
But not for decency. The author's point could still have been made w/o the coarse language.
In a sane world, Dolan would have been yanked out of New York and made a washroom attendant in the Vatican when he said of the PRO-ABORTION governor of New York (Paterson) that he “takes his Catholic faith seriously.”
Ann is absolutely correct about Dolan, and always has been.
Everyone, btw, should watch this: http://youtu.be/7bA_NbYSaGM
Ms barnhardt should also check out what the good book says about taxes... “render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar “.
She is correct in this article though; homosexuality is an abomination.
I’ve heard that the road to hell is paved by the skulls of bishops.
This author’s language is atrocious. Why even post it?
Definitely not Christian language at all.
Brilliant piece. Dolan is truly vile, and Francis is not much better. The Vatican is laying the seeds of destruction, and Francis’ nauseating deference to Muslims makes clear who will be the victors in the end.
Seems to be the post-modern approach of Dolan and Pope Francis. God gave us standards, He had them written down. We are not to judge others based on 'our righteousness' but we are to present God's Law as part of Gospel preaching in order to expose the sinner as (in daniel1212's tag line) damned+destitute. Our job is to do what Jesus Christ did in Luke 18 where he confronts the rich young man with the Law and after showing the man he was not worthy according to the Law, that only with God are all things possible. The first element of Gospel preaching is to bring folks up the rocky path of Mt Sinai and then, only then once they realize they are lacking according to God's Law, we present the deliverance of Mt Zion (Christ's death and resurrection).
You know, Ann Barnhardt needs to stop mincing words, being so craftily subtle, and just tell us what she thinks. Really, it’s so hard to discern what she’s saying here with all the subtle word play and nuance.
Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord.
Timothy Dolan laughs after being elected president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Just think what a REAL Cardinal would say: He would first of all say that he was sad. He would say that it is always sad when a man “comes out,” because it causes scandal. And it causes a temporary, deceptive sense of liberation.
There is a great deal he could say that would convey what the Church teaches without uttering a single syllable of “condemnation,” or “judgment.” But also without being a jackass!
Would I have said what Cardinal Dolan said? No. I probably would have said, “Hey, I wish Mike well as an athlete and as a human being. I believe that part of what he does off the field is sinful, but I don’t hate him for that, we’re all sinners in one way or another, I just hope and pray he turns from it. But, David, Mike Sam is coming out to thunderous applause from the sports media, the news media in general and what passes for the cool crowd in modern society. And the media and modern society being what they are, he had no good reason to expect anything else. Courageous? Really?”
Given the opportunity, would I have urged the cardinal to reply like that? Sure. And believe me, there are prelates out there who need my advice on this sort of thing more desperately than Cardinal Dolan. (Looking right at you, Cardinal Mahony.) Discussing them in the language that Ann and others do, on the other hand, is not of interest to me. Not just because I’m a noob, but because I wouldn’t even talk about them like that if I were remaining Protestant. If I really had the urge to, I’d drop out of RCIA and put my application in at The Tract Publisher Whose Works Shall Not Be Posted On FR, which happens to be here in the Inland Empire, and try to get paid for it.
>> “Bravo” to sodomy. Bravo to one man jamming...
So being “gay” isn’t about tap dancing in the rain?
Not unlike the display of dismembered fetuses, I think it also makes sense to describe the behavior the states are forcing the citizens to service, sanction, and support.