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Since Jesus Ate With Sinners, Do I Have to Eat at the Strip Club’s Buffet? (Warning: Photos at link)
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 26 Feb 2014 | Joe Carter

Posted on 02/28/2014 10:36:43 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Boogieman

I am not a theological expert, but my understanding is that God turns away from people and nations that refuse Him. So no, I believe there are some places that God has vacated.


41 posted on 02/28/2014 1:25:50 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

He might turn his favor or blessing away from some people or nations, but not his presence. He fills the heavens and earth; he is omnipresent.


42 posted on 02/28/2014 1:28:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: frogjerk

No, you are being ridiculous.


43 posted on 02/28/2014 3:01:33 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: FAA

Never ate the buffet but seen a lot of “gutted salmon” on stage


44 posted on 02/28/2014 3:06:13 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Gamecock
OF COURSE NOT BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO SAY TO YOU OR ME (BOTH SINNERS)"DO NOT EAT" I SUSPECT THE SIN OF GAY CONSUMMATION IS NO WORSE THAN A MAN AND WOMEN NOT MARRIED TO EACH OTHER CONSUMMATING
45 posted on 02/28/2014 3:11:42 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: franky8

Do we really think this same Jesus would “bake a cake” to celebrate a sinful union he himself considered an “abomination” (Lev. 20:13)?


46 posted on 02/28/2014 3:16:07 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: .45 Long Colt
That seems logical to you, but it’s not biblical. It’s certainly not how someone saved by the free grace of God should think. Once someone has been truly saved he hates his sin and is increasingly aware of, and grieved by, his sin. I could respond with numerous passages of Scripture, but I suggest you study Romans 6 in particular."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that the Protestant position is that once you are saved, nothing you do can merit the loss of salvation. By that logic, you can do anything you want and still be saved. You could walk into the strip club and solicit a lap-dance from one of the strippers.

Is someone who would do that not really saved as he thought? So, how can you know who is saved, since everybody sins to one degree or another? By that logic, no one can be absolutely sure of his own salvation while on earth. And that seems to lead back to the Catholic position on salvation.

Romans 6 doesn't suggest that a "saved" person cannot possibly sin -- it merely says God forbid that we fall into sin and admonishes us not to sin, and that being one with the will of God will lead to holiness and eternal life. Not that we will be guaranteed not to separate ourselves from God's will.

47 posted on 02/28/2014 4:28:49 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

*Correct me if I’m wrong, but it appears that the Protestant position is that once you are saved, nothing you do can merit the loss of salvationmission*

You are wrong.


48 posted on 02/28/2014 5:00:03 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

The point is that’s not how Christians think. Yes we sin, but we sure don’t think in terms of what we can get away with now that we are saved. Legalists often think that way. And that may be a typical Catholic mode of thought, but that’s not Christian.

What you are likely missing is that salvation isn’t a result of work or merit, it’s the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit. It is wholly a matter of grace. When a man is truly saved by the grace of God he is transformed on the inside. That sin he used to love begins to leave a bad taste in his mouth. He doesn’t want the old things any more. This old world doesn’t have the same appeal it once had. Of course a saved man can fall into horrible sin, but he won’t stay there long because his conscience just won’t allow it. Things he used to be able to do without a second thought cause him turmoil in his soul.

I could write much on this, but the bottom line is it seems you misunderstand because you don’t know how God really saves a sinner (as opposed to what Rome teaches) and you don’t know what happens to a sinner who has been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. I know I am saved because I am not the man I was once. I am a radically changed person and it certainly wasn’t on my own strength. I have that “peace that passes all understanding” as described in Scripture. I never had that before God graciously saved me.

FRiend, Rome doesn’t have a gospel capable of saving your soul. Follow these links and begin to learn the biblical gospel that can indeed save your soul. In Romans 1 Paul said, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth...” Rome has a powerless manmade gospel. The real Gospel has the power of God to transform those who believe.

The Gospel Defined and Discerned
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=81901181950

The Testimony of a Former Priest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvID3lRyYIc&feature=relmfu

Bereanbeacon.org


49 posted on 02/28/2014 5:22:45 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: franky8

Jesus calls Sinners to Repentance, the Laodicean Church which we are in, has failed to do this....

The Harvest is Ripe but the Labors are Few...

Luke 10:2
He told them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.

What good is it if you only love people who love you?

Matthew 5:46
Love Your Enemies
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?

“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

Jesus said: I am sending you out into a den of wolves, you cannot help anyone if you are constantly with the Sheep...


50 posted on 03/01/2014 11:09:34 AM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: TaraP

AND OUR LORD WILL SPEW US OUT


51 posted on 03/01/2014 12:36:38 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
No, you are being ridiculous.

How so?

52 posted on 03/03/2014 9:02:58 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: frogjerk

You are completely incapable of understanding “How so.”


53 posted on 03/03/2014 4:32:13 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Gamecock

The more these “experts” attempt to analyze what Jesus said or ate, the more I’m avoiding organized religion........


54 posted on 03/03/2014 4:38:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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